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Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 9:46 pm
by Jim O'Bryan
sharon kinsella wrote:are we just making some pretty and hoping for the best? (And the pretty ain't that pretty.)
Well it is certainly easier.

Once again because I am very proud, more and more CDCs and grant giving
groups see NinthEstate® Software as the ultimate in Economic Development
Tools.

Could not do it without the help of Ken Warren and the library, the mayor, planning director and city hall, the school board, and of
course the you, the 10% of Lakewood that takes an active part.

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Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 10:23 pm
by Dustin James
Jim O'Bryan wrote:
sharon kinsella wrote:are we just making some pretty and hoping for the best? (And the pretty ain't that pretty.)
Well it is certainly easier.

Once again because I am very proud, more and more CDCs and grant giving
groups see NinthEstate® Software as the ultimate in Economic Development
Tools.

Could not do it without the help of Ken Warren and the library, the mayor, planning director and city hall, the school board, and of
course the you, the 10% of Lakewood that takes an active part.

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Take back your city. Invite the mayor to lead. Invite LA to become transparent and come out of the shadows (it's not productive to have a solo agenda). Create a forum of ideas (oh whoops, you have one here). Lynn has identified and/or reiterated several good ones. Get a list of 10 really good ideas that have the criteria of commerce generation. Go for only the five best and set a time limit for execution, then go for the other five. Use Lakewood resources, and consider others if they are free and good for Lakewood. Don't let the winter get you down, plan for Spring - its coming!

FWIW....

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Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 7:49 am
by Charlie Page
Dustin James wrote:Don't let the winter get you down, plan for Spring - its coming!
It's true....I've been noticing the days are getting longer! :D

Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 9:24 am
by Jim O'Bryan
In many very good conversations with LO's Kumbaya Master Gary Rice I
now realize that maybe I should reach out in effort to heal what is quickly
becoming another deep wound in the Lakewood psyche I sat down and
looked at all of our wayfinding problems, and have, I believe, come up with
a perfect compromise between all players, and needs.

What do you think?




Kumbaya brothers and sisters.


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Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 11:01 am
by Charlie Page
Jim O'Bryan wrote:In many very good conversations with LO's Kumbaya Master Gary Rice I
now realize that maybe I should reach out in effort to heal what is quickly
becoming another deep wound in the Lakewood psyche I sat down and
looked at all of our wayfinding problems, and have, I believe, come up with
a perfect compromise between all players, and needs.

What do you think?




Kumbaya brothers and sisters.


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I think either the link didn't post correctly or the compromise is to do nothing regarding our wayfinding problem :)

Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 12:34 pm
by Gary Rice
Sublime thinking, Charlie. :D

Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 12:41 pm
by Jim O'Bryan
Oh My God!

After all that work, and conversations with way finding pros in Washington DC, Epcot Center, LA, and Seattle.

I feel silly!

Will post shortly.


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Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 1:49 pm
by Charlie Page
Jim O'Bryan wrote:After all that work, and conversations with way finding pros in Washington DC, Epcot Center, LA, and Seattle.
We now have a wayfinding 'expert' here in Lakewood! :lol: and he happens to have connections with a local graphics company :shock:

Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 4:54 pm
by Jim O'Bryan
Well after sitting down and really thinking about what I know about Lakewood,
and many of the hopes and dreams of politicians, parents, residents, city
groups and those desperately trying to find something worthwhile to do
even though sometimes they are limited because of oversight, lack of depth,
or even just spinning their wheels, I made some calls and put together what I see
as hopefully the ultimate solution to many of Lakewood's needs and problems.

It seems that we have a now serious, potentially, fatal need to get wayfinding
and signage up and around. I suppose that the end of thee day, I see the
need and the excuses coming together. Groups looking for validation, and
the need to feel success backed with the millions of lost souls that find
themselves lost in the vast throes of "Downtown" Lakewood, and even the
business districts that start and flow from "Just East" and "Just West" of
the massive complex grids that make up Lakewood. To some, who are lost
anyway, it has to border on the loss of a child or a family member. I am sure,
to those of us that work, "Downtown," we have often seen the look of "lost"
on those that come into the big city from Milan, Wooster, Coshocton, even
Olmsted Township. It is a look that often makes me want to reach out and,
offer help, or at least the phone number to a member of the clergy. Certainly
the big city of Lakewood is a little overwhelming. And I am sure it is with
these thoughts LA turned to wthe worl renowned desingers of the Heniens
branding, for relief, and function.

With that being noted, and the urge to turn Lakewood into an Epcot Center of
the North Coast, I mean, who can blame them. The similarities are staggeering
if not odd by coincidence, I looked and spoke with friends there to see what,
if anything, my simple mind could come up with to help us be that vacation
destination and centerpiece. Now, I have always been content with being the
best place to live and work, while others see us as something better, grander,
with an inner fire burning for shopping, shopping, shopping and the need
for fast opening and fast closing big box stores. As I am rarely right, I looked
to Seattle, and Washington DC for help with that thought process.

We have the need to beautify, and cast our lovely little town in a much
more favorable light. This has been done recently with flowers, ribbons, and
window painting that always reminds me of birthday parties, festivals, and
graffiti. Perhaps we can do better, something simple, to the point, and easier to
maintain, after all we have learned as one true civic leader put it, "Maybe
we are not a flower basket city..." I hate to argue, but maybe, just maybe
we have not really examined that burning need and desire enough. It reminds
me of NASA and the Rocket Hammer. There was a need to get a hammer
into space, but no simple hammer would do. So Stanley, ever ready with
a way to help while making a dollar created the "Rocket Hammer" basically
a regular claw hammer with a yellow handle. Cost, $10,000, with all of the
usefulness of any regular claw hammer here on earth.

Voila, a success many times over.

At this point it occured to me that often, even under the best circumstances,
that the streets are just not up to the same standards as Europe, Disney
World, or Elyria. That while the Lakewood Chamber of Commerce, and
Mainstreet have their Cleanup DAY, maybe, just maybe, there would be a better
easier and faster way to if not clean out streets direct attentions away from
the litter, the homeless, the downtrodden and especially the miles of empty
almost scary storefronts that dot not only "Dowtown" Lakewood but other
areas as well.

But this brings up another interesting, no fascinating problem, how can local
groups shake down the businesses and residents, without the frosting on
the proverbial party cake known as "Downtown" Lakewood? Without this
near "Italian family style" shakedown, many would not be able to afford the lifestyles
they have become so accustomed and comfortable in? So again, one problem
flowers without care, starts another problem, with no flowers what would we sell er
lease? This would never do. After all a tapeworm needs to be fed, regularly, or it simply
dies. In their world, certainly it is better the host dies than the worm. Which then brings
us to a burning need to be able to shake down grants, the city and large businesses,
as that growing hunger that must constantly be fed.

So here we are.

A very simple 6 color metal stamped signed.

It is perfect for wayfinding as it has additional areas for "Just East Of
Downtown," "One Block West Of Downtown," "Thirty Steps Left OF Kiosk,"
"Not Downtown," "Wishes It Was Downtown," and "Safely Out Of Downtown."

So, as you can see, it is perfect for wayfinding and bleeding cities dry. Possibly
could place them every 30 feet or so. After hanging a couple thousand, it will
be time to clean, repaint, and hang again.

We also know the disaster of our "hanging baskets" Too high, can't be watered,
to low, heat and pollution kills them. To much water, too little, etc. With
this solution, all of these problems disappear instantly, a flower basket sign
hanging from the wayfinding signage, Lakewood will soon seem like a two dimensional
Tropical Rainforest of Flora. Who could possibly be upset with that.

Along with that comes the ability to "lease" the signs hundreds of times,
like selling stock in "The Producers." Cost Who Cares! We can sell 2,000
times the cost in leaseable "Stocks" Like selling, er, leasing the flower boxes.
Unlike the flower boxes that some merchants have reported stolen then
held for ransom, these will be in plain sight.

Unlike the flower boxes that collect cigarette butts and litter and direct eyes
downwards, the new idea will once again lift eyes towards the heavens, for
a positive uplifting experience of beautiful flowers year round, and we will never
be lost again!

C'mon Gary, grab the banjo, heck with Kumbaya, strike up, "I was once lost, but
now I'm found..."


Image

This is a detailed version of the new wayfinding signage system.
It not only incorporates the best of many suggestions, including
the "Geiger's" feel. But it also has room to differentiate as small
of distances as every two feet or less. This gives a great opportunity
for shaing down the locals and the government.

Below is a silk screened picture of hanging flower baskets that are
craved by a few in Lakewood but either cost $80,000 a year to
water, or die before any water can be applied. We could silcone coat
them so the dirt from the streets just falls off in a rainstorm.


Image

This sample shows the amazing visual impact on any area.
Here "Just East Of Downtown" shows that with the right
wayfinding signage system, you might never have to clean the
streets but once a year as all eyes are directed to the heavens.

Again, nowhere near the experience of those other designers,
but I think I know Lakewood and the ability of most Lakewood
groups to deliver the goods.

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Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 5:15 pm
by stephen davis
Jim,

OMG!!!

I just had Rocky River Starbucks coffee come out of my nose!

This certainly kills a flock of birds with one stone.

Powerful design solution to complex problems.

I think we're done.

Hang 'em.


Steve


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Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 5:32 pm
by Stan Austin
:shock: WoW----What did I miss at the hospital????

This is ---futuristic, current, sustainable, green (notice the flowers) and, clearly- transparent.

Now the real challenge---------how to blend the signage with the Highland Road transition into Lakewood's 5th Ward.

Stan

Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 5:42 pm
by Jim O'Bryan
Stan Austin wrote::shock: WoW----What did I miss at the hospital????

This is ---futuristic, current, sustainable, green (notice the flowers) and, clearly- transparent.

Now the real challenge---------how to blend the signage with the Highland Road transition into Lakewood's 5th Ward.

Stan
Stan

Thanks, of course I have no where near the depth of knowledge of
Lakewood as Stuido Graphique, but almost dying should get me
into the bidding process from what I hear.

Steve

We will be placing these around the city for people to look at and tell
us their thoughts, and we will actually listen to them and work it into
the design.

Cost to city as of right now. $0.00

Emerald Canyon Historic Area
Highland Ave.
William Sonoma Line
Captain's Cove
The Other Franklin
Clifton Park
Just North Of Birdtown
10 Blocks West Of Downtown
Near Madison Park
I Can Almost See City Hall

to name a few.

Another suggestion that came out of one of Mary Anne's posts is
maybe the city is limiting themselves with only one CDC. It would
only make sense to have a special one for housing as LakewoodAlive
is mostly for the downtown area.

LakewoodLives?
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Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 5:53 pm
by Jim O'Bryan
Jim O'Bryan wrote: LakewoodLives?
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LakewoodLives®

just applied.

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Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 5:57 pm
by Donald Farris
Hi,
Mr. OB I do not know what meds you are on but they have cleared away the fog of your mind. Like Dr. House, with the proper dosage you can solve Lakewood's problems.

It like they are eternal flowers, always in bloom, even when those other Cities flowers are long gone, Lakewood's baskets will look the best in any picture. I think with proper meds they will even look good in real life. Please forward to Lakewood Hospital so they can begin work on that perscription.

Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 6:09 pm
by Jim O'Bryan
Donald Farris wrote:Hi,
Mr. OB I do not know what meds you are on but they have cleared away the fog of your mind. Like Dr. House, with the proper dosage you can solve Lakewood's problems.

It like they are eternal flowers, always in bloom, even when those other Cities flowers are long gone, Lakewood's baskets will look the best in any picture. I think with proper meds they will even look good in real life. Please forward to Lakewood Hospital so they can begin work on that perscription.
Don

Gary Rice told me to make sure I do something useful with my second chance. That and a string of back channel emails and conversations, that I was able to see the light finally.

I would love to credit my health care, and amazing doctors, but the truth is I found my muse somewhere else. It is almost like I have been shown the light or the right way. If I can divest myself of the LO, which many are pushing for, and which is in the works I will be right back to the old Jim O'Bryan so many loved. :wink:

I haven't felt this good, or committed for about 7 years.

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