Re: Graffiti out of control?
Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 10:18 am
Vince
I guess I still have many questions. Go figure.
I understand the idea. Michael Gill and I along with our posse used to clean up the railroad
tracks each year from one end of Lakewood to another. Every person doing this was
breaking the law. I believe it was a fourth degree felony. It was because we felt so strongly
about the fact that the area was dangerous. Also after many calls to the railroad the best
answer we ever got was, they wanted it dangerous to keep kids away. Of course we both
realized how insane this practice was, and we were all willing to take the arrest to make
Lakewood nicer and better.
However, none of this ever made the city or the railroads more responsible. One could
even say that it made them more lax, in taking care of their own property.
So back to the discussion. Something has happened in the last couple of months that
allowed the graffiti to get out of control and everywhere. Now I spoke to a member of
council about the 24 hour law, and they claimed it never existed. Well it did, with the
building department in charge of it. So what has happened with more police, and a much
safer city that has allowed the vandals to take over?
If this is the answer for the future, forget government and do it yourself I would love it
to be said, and allow us to discuss it. At the same time I see more and more money
coming out of the city into groups that are highly paid to tell volunteers what to do, and
how to do it. Maybe this money would be better spent on the building department?
something has happened where driving around the city is just not a good experience.
To be honest there is less tagging in Collinwood and East Cleveland than here. You have
explained how we remove it, now could someone tell us how to stop it, and correct the
slide from being Lakewood into being Cleveland?
In the book "slaughter of cities" this is one of many techniques to destroy community value
so that developers can come in and buy property for pennies on the dollar. Two months
ago we saw a Lakewood home go for $19,000! Dare I say a number like that has not
happened in decades in this town. This is also another technique used developers fighting
for regionalism, to make residents give up, and try "anything," even as foolish as
regionalism with other dying cities to die together!
Is this a crime, an op or both?
FWIW
.
I guess I still have many questions. Go figure.
I understand the idea. Michael Gill and I along with our posse used to clean up the railroad
tracks each year from one end of Lakewood to another. Every person doing this was
breaking the law. I believe it was a fourth degree felony. It was because we felt so strongly
about the fact that the area was dangerous. Also after many calls to the railroad the best
answer we ever got was, they wanted it dangerous to keep kids away. Of course we both
realized how insane this practice was, and we were all willing to take the arrest to make
Lakewood nicer and better.
However, none of this ever made the city or the railroads more responsible. One could
even say that it made them more lax, in taking care of their own property.
So back to the discussion. Something has happened in the last couple of months that
allowed the graffiti to get out of control and everywhere. Now I spoke to a member of
council about the 24 hour law, and they claimed it never existed. Well it did, with the
building department in charge of it. So what has happened with more police, and a much
safer city that has allowed the vandals to take over?
If this is the answer for the future, forget government and do it yourself I would love it
to be said, and allow us to discuss it. At the same time I see more and more money
coming out of the city into groups that are highly paid to tell volunteers what to do, and
how to do it. Maybe this money would be better spent on the building department?
something has happened where driving around the city is just not a good experience.
To be honest there is less tagging in Collinwood and East Cleveland than here. You have
explained how we remove it, now could someone tell us how to stop it, and correct the
slide from being Lakewood into being Cleveland?
In the book "slaughter of cities" this is one of many techniques to destroy community value
so that developers can come in and buy property for pennies on the dollar. Two months
ago we saw a Lakewood home go for $19,000! Dare I say a number like that has not
happened in decades in this town. This is also another technique used developers fighting
for regionalism, to make residents give up, and try "anything," even as foolish as
regionalism with other dying cities to die together!
Is this a crime, an op or both?
FWIW
.