The Story of Stuff

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Roy Pitchford
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Re: The Story of Stuff

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Danielle Masters wrote:What method are you opposed to? That is it short and catchy? The use of animation?

They could have presented it to kids without half-truths, exaggerations and lies.

Danielle Masters wrote:It's a good talking piece. It's good for our kids to be presented with information of all kinds. Parents need to talk with their kids, find out what they are being taught. No matter what you political idealization is talking to your kids about what they are learning and what their thoughts are is an important part of being a good parent.

I won't disagree.
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Re: The Story of Stuff

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Anything can be considered a "half-truth" or an "exaggeration" depending on what facts you are relying on and whether you lean left or right. Like I said it's a good discussion piece. No video or book or whatever is going to be perfect, everyone has a bias.

I'm sure we can both agree that people get lazy. They see one blurb and like it and assume it's all perfectly true but we need to be responsible and do our own research.
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Re: The Story of Stuff

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Roy Pitchford wrote:They could have presented it to kids without half-truths, exaggerations and lies.


If the RIAA can do it... ;-)

RIAA Asks Schoolkids To Assist With Propaganda

We wrote about Music-Rules! and similar industry propaganda efforts in May, outlining some of their falsehoods and biases. For instance, the RIAA tells kids, "Never copy someone else's creative work without permission from the copyright holder" — omitting the important right to make creative fair use of existing content. It also coins a misleading term, "songlifting," (which the curriculum says is "just as bad as shoplifting"). Perhaps most disturbing of all given that the curriculum is supposed to be adopted by schools, it teaches kids bad math as part of its lessons on peer to peer file-sharing.
- From the above link.
Roy Pitchford
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Re: The Story of Stuff

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Danielle Masters wrote:Anything can be considered a "half-truth" or an "exaggeration" depending on what facts you are relying on and whether you lean left or right. Like I said it's a good discussion piece. No video or book or whatever is going to be perfect, everyone has a bias.

I disagree about one thing. Whether you lean left or right does not change facts, it only results in different perceptions of those facts.

Danielle Masters wrote:I'm sure we can both agree that people get lazy. They see one blurb and like it and assume it's all perfectly true but we need to be responsible and do our own research.

I agree, people are lazy, but when it comes to children in schools, I fear there is also a youthful naiveté involved. Children are often inquisitive, questioning much that they see (Why is the sky blue?), but they are also impressionable and when they learn the same things repeatedly in school (even if those things are wrong), they will begin to believe it to be truth.

Jim DeVito wrote:
Roy Pitchford wrote:They could have presented it to kids without half-truths, exaggerations and lies.


If the RIAA can do it... ;-)

RIAA Asks Schoolkids To Assist With Propaganda
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I would disagree with the RIAA doing it as well.
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