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Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 10:47 am
by Stephen Eisel
She has also owned a number of successful businesses
Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 11:33 am
by Bill Call
Jim O'Bryan wrote:Ryan Salo wrote:Where Joe could step right in, could Palin?
The more important question is: Can Barak Obam step in.
Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 11:51 am
by Bret Callentine
I'm listening to the McCain/Palin press conference now, and I can't help but think that wherever she is, Hillary Clinton has got to be half way through her fifth quart of Hagen-Das by now.
Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 12:02 pm
by Stephen Eisel
Bret Callentine wrote:I'm listening to the McCain/Palin press conference now, and I can't help but think that wherever she is, Hillary Clinton has got to be half way through her fifth quart of Hagen-Das by now.
lol I just had about 12 oz of water come out my nose..
Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 12:03 pm
by Bret Callentine
1.5 years in elective office, as governor of a state that is not looking deep in corruption, at least on the Republican side, and I have no doubt oil money flows deep in many politicians pockets.
Governor of a state that is bigger than the country of Iran, and if it seceded from the nation, would probably have a comperable GDP.
Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 2:42 pm
by Ivor Karabatkovic
I think the qualifications that got her appointed was that she can perform CPR and use a defibrillator.
Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 2:47 pm
by Danielle Masters
Well she does have 5 children so I am assuming she is an excellent multi-tasker.
Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 6:42 pm
by Stephen Eisel
Ivor Karabatkovic wrote:I think the qualifications that got her appointed was that she can perform CPR and use a defibrillator.
What is up hater of the old?
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Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 6:46 pm
by Stephen Eisel
Jim O'Bryan wrote:Bill Call wrote:Palin, governor of Alaska.
She has more political and managerial experience than Obama.
She has challenged the political establishment in Alaska on spending and corruption.
She is (to paraphrase Joe Biden) clean and shiny and new.
She is a she.
1.5 years in elective office, as governor of a state that is not looking deep in corruption, at least on the Republican side, and I have no doubt oil money flows deep in many politicians pockets.
Joe Liberman, then we can watch all of the "Rs" once again go back on everything they have said they stood for to justify it.
FWIW
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKsSYE4gfck
Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 8:47 pm
by Will Brown
Palin"s elected offices: Wasilla, Alaska, City Council member, 1992-96 (4 years)
Wasilla mayor, 1996-2002 (6 years)
Elected governor of Alaska, 2006 (2 years).
Jim O.Bryan somehow adds this up to 1.5 years! So much for credibility.
Palin's executive experience appears to add to 8 years. Obama has absolutely no executive experience. So what qualities are we looking for in the person who will head the executive branch, smoke and talk, or actual experience?
Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 10:26 pm
by Stephen Eisel
Will Brown wrote:Palin"s elected offices: Wasilla, Alaska, City Council member, 1992-96 (4 years)
Wasilla mayor, 1996-2002 (6 years)
Elected governor of Alaska, 2006 (2 years).
Jim O.Bryan somehow adds this up to 1.5 years! So much for credibility.
Palin's executive experience appears to add to 8 years. Obama has absolutely no executive experience. So what qualities are we looking for in the person who will head the executive branch, smoke and talk, or actual experience?
Will, Jim was using the Al Gore Lockbox method to calculate the number of years..

Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 7:07 am
by Dustin James
Bill Call wrote:Jim O'Bryan wrote:Ryan Salo wrote:Where Joe could step right in, could Palin?
The more important question is: Can Barak Obama step in.
Truly.
Here's a great article on Obama's penchant for padding his experience. It's called: The Audacity of Resume-Padding or why Obama makes things up.
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite? ... 2FShowFull
Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 9:44 am
by Jim DeVito
Will Brown wrote:Palin"s elected offices: Wasilla, Alaska, City Council member, 1992-96 (4 years)
Wasilla mayor, 1996-2002 (6 years)
Elected governor of Alaska, 2006 (2 years).
Jim O.Bryan somehow adds this up to 1.5 years! So much for credibility.
Palin's executive experience appears to add to 8 years. Obama has absolutely no executive experience. So what qualities are we looking for in the person who will head the executive branch, smoke and talk, or actual experience?
Note the
wiki of Wasilla, Alaska. The 2005 population estimate was 8,471. Being mayor of a town with 8,000 people is not doubt a part-time job. Being a city council member of a town (at the time) of just over 5,000 people is no doubt a quarter time job. She has also, according to this mornings weekend edition only been Governor for 20 month, just shy of two years.
I fail to see how this counts as the kind of "experience" to lead the free world. Also 8,471 is a far cry from 300 million.
By that logic there are about 8 million CEO's around the country better qualified to lead the country.
I to cannot wait until the Biden Palin debate.
You know what got me the most about McCain's speech introducing her the other day. When he said "they were both coach's and thought their children to excel at sports." Unless you are going to handle diplomacy abroad with a game of football then what does that have to do with anything!!! To make it worse after he said that the whole crowed erupted into applause.

Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 10:15 am
by Stephen Eisel
At least she has been a CEO of a company and has experience running a private busines as well as a state. I do not see that type of experience on Obama's or Biden's resume.. How long has Obam been a Senator?
Obviously the people see it differently (clicky)
Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 10:25 am
by Stephen Calhoun
I would really love to hear anyone articulate in cogent terms what the connection is between experience, intelligence, capability, and rationality.
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Mrs. Palin is a terrific choice for purposes of promoting McSame's ambitions to be commander in chief. But, my guess is she'll have to be heavily programmed and scripted to deflect certain lines of inquiry.
She's very self-possessed, articulate and she can think on her feet. She's private about her religion. She may be an Assembly of God Christian, or not.
She feels Intelligent Design should be taught in biology. All this means is she is clueless about the nature of scientific inquiry, and, faith has rushed in where-otherwise-rationality might reign. ...no major knock in terms of what most people believe.
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Okay, so McSame has made a play to mobilize the evangelicals. He had to do it. Palin will be a very able reader of the necessary scripts. She's very confidant and articulate. Her engagements will be tightly managed and the audiences will be tightly controlled.
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Meanwhile I predict none of the Obama and McCain supporters here on the Deck will be moved to change their minds. Thus, both sides will rage and rag against the opposing candidate.
The latest innovations in campaign propaganda will no doubt land here, regardless of whether they blow in from left or right.
Consider: this election will be decided by turnout and undecideds. I don't think it likely that most undecideds are having trouble figuring out whose policies are better. My guess is such voters will be moved to vote for other reasons.
Turnout is a different matter. Here's where the investment of 5-10 hours a week on behalf of your favored candidate will outstrip any possible return implicit in spending time preaching here to the converted and the 'not-convertable.'