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Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 7:26 pm
by Stephen Eisel

Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 8:37 pm
by Phil Florian
Looks like "no" is the correct answer.

On a side note, I heard this question on a show on NPR but I didn't hear the answer. Basically, the question was why was there any effort to get elected in Puerto Rico, American Samoa, Guam, and the Virgin Island when they don't get to vote in the actual presidential elections. What genius created that situation? Why would a candidate (unless somewhat desperate as Clinton at the end was) spend any time campaigning in a part of the world that has no real say in who the president will be this fall. Just weird.

On a sider note, why aren't we adding them as states? Because 50 is such a nice, clean number and we have all those flag pins to sell? :D

Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 10:04 pm
by Stephen Eisel
http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/w ... n_the.html


QWhy does Puerto Rico participate in the presidential primary and not the general election?
A The United States Constitution grants voting privileges in the general election to the states and the District of Columbia only, not to U.S. territories.

vote

Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 10:23 pm
by ryan costa
are Puerto Ricans and American Samoans citizens when they live in the 50 states?

Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 11:59 pm
by Ivor Karabatkovic
Clinton is set to make a speech in Washington DC that will announce her quitting the race and supporting Barack Obama's candidacy.

Personally, John Edwards would be my pick over Clinton for the VP spot but Edwards already said he wasn't going to accept any offers. Maybe he'll change his mind. But a Obama/Clinton ticket wouldn't be bad either.

I just know that there are a lot of bitter Hillary Clinton supporters out there right now. When I stood in the crowd at CSU and watched Hillary deliver her robotic, monotonous rhetoric, or when I watched Obama speak a few times, I got a good idea of how fanatical some supporters of the two candidates really are.

"We don't want a rockstar President!" the 70 year old women screamed at the Clinton rally.

But when you think about it in a broader picture, everyone knew we'd be here today, at the end of it all, with Obama as the winner and Hillary wanting the VP spot. Could all of this have happened earlier if Hillary's ego and "determination to win" was stroked enough to talk some sense into her and her campaign?

Nah, no real rock star goes down without a battle.

On the other hand, we have John McCain, who I think is a valuable candidate for the Republican Party. I thought he was a Democrat for a while until he announced that he's running for the GOP Ticket. But he seems to think the same thing that a lot of other citizens of the planet think.

"Americans are very frustrated, and they have every right to be," about the situation in Iraq, McCain said. "We've wasted a lot of our most precious treasure, which is American lives."-John McCain


I wonder if John McCain's campaign managers tell him to "break a hip!" instead of "break a leg!" before he delivers each speech.

good ol' days

Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 4:49 am
by ryan costa
Hillary's success in politics has been exclusively a function of bill Clinton's popularity.

Re: good ol' days

Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 8:14 am
by Phil Florian
ryan costa wrote:Hillary's success in politics has been exclusively a function of bill Clinton's popularity.


I know at least one person that agrees with that. :D

Re: good ol' days

Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 10:44 am
by Ivor Karabatkovic
ryan costa wrote:Hillary's success in politics has been exclusively a function of bill Clinton's popularity.


I agree with it.

I know when she told the whole sniper story from Bosnia, that's when I realized it completely.

When I was overseas, my neighbors would tell me "Tell Bill Clinton to come to Bosnia and to be our President!" but they never even mentioned Hillary.

And yet Hillary used the horrible situation and suffering of my family and my people in former Yugoslavia for her political gain, and spun it so that it made her sound like a war hero when in fact she became a big liar at the expense of millions who starved, wept and bled to death at the cost of a civil war. There are future generations whose lives are ruined by this war and many that escaped have to live with the mental wars that they go through every day, and Hillary started another mental war for millions of displaced refugees.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BfNqhV5hg4