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Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 11:01 am
by Stephen Calhoun
They had fire and stone tools and probably could talk.
Evidence of stone tools is clear with the Oldowan tools dating to 2.3 million years ago.
Human speech presents a much more difficult problem for anthropologists to research. The development of a speech functional supralaryngeal vocal tract arrives with Homo Sapiens. Communicating using speech is apparently a late development occuring sometime around 100,00 years ago.
See, for example, Strait et al, The Recent Origin of Human Speech; 2006.
Strait, et. al. Morphological Constraints on Hominin Speech Production; 2005
Alternatively, Steven Mithen has proposed Neanderthal vocalizing in his popularization, The Singing Neanderthals.
Of course proto-linguistic communication isn't talking per say, yet grunting and looking alarmed, for example, could be communicative, in olden days as well as in our own day.
Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 11:02 am
by Stephen Calhoun
They had fire and stone tools and probably could talk.
Evidence of stone tools is clear with the Oldowan tools dating to 2.3 million years ago.
Human speech presents a much more difficult problem for anthropologists to research. The development of a speech functional supralaryngeal vocal tract arrives with Homo Sapiens. Communicating using speech is apparently a late development occurring sometime around 100,000 years ago.
See, for example, Strait et al, The Recent Origin of Human Speech; 2006.
Strait, et. al. Morphological Constraints on Hominin Speech Production; 2005
Alternatively, Steven Mithen has proposed Neanderthal vocalizing in his popularization, The Singing Neanderthals.
Of course proto-linguistic communication isn't talking per say, yet grunting and looking alarmed, for example, could be communicative, in olden days as well as in our own day.
Huckabumpkin rejects paleoanthropological findings about the very age of Homo Sapiens and their descent from the precedents of earlier hominids. This need not circle (his) insipid misunderstandings of evolution because the evidence for this descent is also found outside of austere genetics.
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 1:56 pm
by Tracy Jones
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 2:03 pm
by Stephen Eisel
Salon.com

Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 2:42 pm
by Ryan Salo
Salon is an interesting site.
They do movie reviews!
While I don't think I will ever watch 27 dresses I find it interesting that it gets such a bad review simply because it doesn't have any gay couples and it doesn't make divorce sound good.
Interesting....
http://www.salon.com/ent/movies/review/ ... 7_dresses/
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 6:00 pm
by sharon kinsella
Ryan - I went and read the review. You saw the one sentence and didn't take the statement as a whole with what she was expressing in that paragraph. She was conveying that it wasn't a true depiction of real life, that's not what the world really is and that it puts forth a view that is unrealistic and therefore flawed.
You really must get over this whole freak out when you hear that gay people may have real lives and be a part of the human race.
Blessings.
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 10:35 pm
by Ryan Salo
So should every movie have inter racial relationships? Adopted kids? Widows? Grandparents raising kids? Homeless? Single mom?
Should we have every movie include every type of family life so it is more "realistic"?
Come on....
I am not the one freaking out, here is the quote.
"biggest disappointment of "27 Dresses" is that it inhabits a Harlequin romance New York City, one remarkably short on homosexuals and divorce"
To me that is a freaked out opinion. One that is very closed minded.
Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 7:39 am
by sharon kinsella
The WHOLE paragraph. She was just saying that it was a skewed view. The young woman had been a bridesmaid for 25 weddings and all the couples had still been together - not realistic in todays world. And the view of New York as nothing but white, heterosexual, middle class residents, very unrealistic.
Real life isn't like that - that's what she was pointing out.
Re: pardon
Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 8:18 am
by Jim O'Bryan
ryan costa wrote:Mike Huckabee has Chuck Norris in his corner. Chuck Norris owns some big Casinos. If Mike Huckabee is elected President he will pardon Chuck Norris for making the show "Walker: Texas Ranger"(it was terrible).
Ryan
As always the voice of reason, in the storm of smoke and mirrors. However I was a bit disappointed that you and Calhoun were dragged into one of the silliest debates of all time.
Hot story of the week, is the Creationism Museum being forced to sell a 40,000 year old Mammoth skull to stay open. While the museum itself puts the formation of the earth at 6,000 years. This article ponders if you cold sue them for fraud, as they claim it is 40,000 years old in the ad.
http://www.stltoday.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=5290259
As for politicians lying, this bar was set and reset during the Clinton era. I would think that anything as bad as lying about consensual sex between legal age adults on is punishable by impeachment or dismissal. From what I see, every president in my lifetime would have been impeached, and GWB would have been out of office before being sworn in, and about every week after that. This would be seen as how bad this system works, which brings us to Dannielle's comment, which I agree with.
FWIW
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