Community Forums Will Be The Death Of This City
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Dan Alaimo
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Re: Community Forums Will Be The Death Of This City
Jim, I'll be back to you in a little while after I gather a few more thoughts and give others a chance to join in. Although it will probably be by phone, others should know THIS IS NOT A PRIVATE CONVERSATION.
“Never let a good crisis go to waste." - Winston Churchill (Quote later appropriated by Rahm Emanuel)
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Re: Community Forums Will Be The Death Of This City
Dan Alaimo wrote:Jim, I'll be back to you in a little while after I gather a few more thoughts and give others a chance to join in. Although it will probably be by phone, others should know THIS IS NOT A PRIVATE CONVERSATION.

Today the adults of Lakewood have taken to shaming three kids WHO MAY HAVE thrown food at an African-American woman. The post mentions charges filed, and the police know who they are. Though the post acts like they do not.
PITIFUL both the kids for doing it, and the Adults shaming them. Let the kids have their day in court.
There is something really distasteful in my book of adults shaming kids outside of their parents.
Social Kangaroo Courts...
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Jim O'Bryan
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"The very act of observing disturbs the system."
Werner Heisenberg
"If anything I've said seems useful to you, I'm glad.
If not, don't worry. Just forget about it."
His Holiness The Dalai Lama
Lakewood Resident
"The very act of observing disturbs the system."
Werner Heisenberg
"If anything I've said seems useful to you, I'm glad.
If not, don't worry. Just forget about it."
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Bridget Conant
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Re: Community Forums Will Be The Death Of This City
Jim O'Bryan wrote:Dan Alaimo wrote:Jim, I'll be back to you in a little while after I gather a few more thoughts and give others a chance to join in. Although it will probably be by phone, others should know THIS IS NOT A PRIVATE CONVERSATION.
Today the adults of Lakewood have taken to shaming three kids WHO MAY HAVE thrown food at an African-American woman. The post mentions charges filed, and the police know who they are. Though the post acts like they do not.
PITIFUL both the kids for doing it, and the Adults shaming them. Let the kids have their day in court.
There is something really distasteful in my book of adults shaming kids outside of their parents.
Social Kangaroo Courts...
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I saw that and was concerned.
I absolutely do not condone their actions, if true, and if it was my child I’d deal with it harshly. BUT, the vigilante style crowd on Facebook that “outed” those boys is inciting more trouble and violence - AGAINST CHILDREN.
What does that accomplish? Better to report it and let the police talk to the boys and hope their parents are then responsible enough to address the issue.
I just saw on Twitter how two people were wrongly accused of assaulting young protesters on a bike path in Maryland and they TRASHED these innocent people because the Twitterverse thinks they are so righteous when really they are vengeful.
I worried that the post about those boys would incite violence and I don’t want ANYONE harmed. And so many responding seemed so delighted at trashing the boys without any actual first hand knowledge of what happened.
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Re: Community Forums Will Be The Death Of This City
Another photos of "those people coming to get us..."

Lakewood's own Congressional Candidate Lord Levi Athon aka "Leviathon" aka McKenzie Levindofske aka "The Alt-Knight"
"He" was also seen at the protests downtown and then again downtown helping to clean up businesses and the mall.


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Lakewood's own Congressional Candidate Lord Levi Athon aka "Leviathon" aka McKenzie Levindofske aka "The Alt-Knight"
"He" was also seen at the protests downtown and then again downtown helping to clean up businesses and the mall.


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Jim O'Bryan
Lakewood Resident
"The very act of observing disturbs the system."
Werner Heisenberg
"If anything I've said seems useful to you, I'm glad.
If not, don't worry. Just forget about it."
His Holiness The Dalai Lama
Lakewood Resident
"The very act of observing disturbs the system."
Werner Heisenberg
"If anything I've said seems useful to you, I'm glad.
If not, don't worry. Just forget about it."
His Holiness The Dalai Lama
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Bridget Conant
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Re: Community Forums Will Be The Death Of This City
Please do not claim that man understands ANYTHING.
He is disturbed.
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He is disturbed.
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Kate McCarthy
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Re: Community Forums Will Be The Death Of This City
Seriously? Try Alt-Right Knight. And if you think homophobia, Islamaphobia, and misogyny are part of the solution, just wow.Jim O'Bryan wrote: "The Alt-Knight"
"He" was also seen at the protests downtown and then again downtown helping to clean up businesses and the mall.
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Kate McCarthy wrote:Seriously? Try Alt-Right Knight. And if you think homophobia, Islamaphobia, and misogyny are part of the solution, just wow.Jim O'Bryan wrote: "The Alt-Knight"
"He" was also seen at the protests downtown and then again downtown helping to clean up businesses and the mall.
Kate
I was using it as an example of, they are us and nothing to fear.
I had no idea of the background until I read that piece.
So, help me make the call
Do we delete it? I was going to take down the photo.
Or do we leave it and let people learn.
I made a bad choice.
That he is homophobia, Islamaphobia and ?
You tell me.
Thank you, any and all input helps.
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Jim O'Bryan
Lakewood Resident
"The very act of observing disturbs the system."
Werner Heisenberg
"If anything I've said seems useful to you, I'm glad.
If not, don't worry. Just forget about it."
His Holiness The Dalai Lama
Lakewood Resident
"The very act of observing disturbs the system."
Werner Heisenberg
"If anything I've said seems useful to you, I'm glad.
If not, don't worry. Just forget about it."
His Holiness The Dalai Lama
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Kate McCarthy
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Re: Community Forums Will Be The Death Of This City
Jim,Jim O'Bryan wrote:Kate McCarthy wrote:Seriously? Try Alt-Right Knight. And if you think homophobia, Islamaphobia, and misogyny are part of the solution, just wow.Jim O'Bryan wrote: "The Alt-Knight"
"He" was also seen at the protests downtown and then again downtown helping to clean up businesses and the mall.
I should have realized you didn't know his background. I think lots of people think he's just eccentric. I'm not sure what the best course of action is but I lean toward leaving it up so others can find out he's not just some guy who picks up garbage in knight clothing.
Though the irony that this lands here, in this topic, is that any online forum is fraught with minefields. We rarely have the whole picture and, now, pictures can be easily altered.
And I love our little neighborhood facebook page, though I wish it didn't live on facebook. It's a useful tool to celebrate our neighbors, communicate, resolve simple issues, etc and in the rare occasion when people try to stir the pot, the posts are just completely ignored.
Kate
Every one of my encounters have been interesting and enjoyable. I have run into him maybe 30 times. Once while he and his step father were putting up an amazing Christmas display here in Lakewood. At no point has he said anything that made me think he was anything but an eccentric.
What is amazing if you look back, all FB community pages were started to control the message. ALL OF THEM, even the ones that claim they don't. I have spoken to each person running them, starting them and walking away. All came from a frustration that their point of view was being covered up, or to actually control the dialogue in and around Lakewood like the community page started by Jenn Pae to promote lies and miss-truths about the Hospital debacle. That alone should have wised Lakewoodites up, but no. Lakewoodites prefer to not know the facts, and to have other people fight their dragons.
Diffusion in the enemy of a community.
Thanks for taking the time to walk in my shoes for a bit. Bridget and I spoke of what to do and we agreed with what you came up with.
Observers want and seek the truth. Even when we do not like what we find out.
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