Here is a good discussion on the "New New BSL" Legislation over on FB. Great idea to get it routed to the Finance Committee, but of course the illustrious Pae will deem it a financial benefit to the city. https://www.facebook.com/groups/1534757 ... 359338766/
Re: Mayor And City Council Double Down On Hate
Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2018 12:19 pm
by james fitzgibbons
Who can request the ballots? Does anyone think a recall election could get any traction?
I wonder if Tristan Radar and Meghan George our newly elected council people would endorse a recall election? With them on board it might be easier.
Re: Mayor And City Council Double Down On Hate
Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2018 12:31 pm
by james fitzgibbons
Dan Alaimo wrote:Also it will require a substantial campaign budget, and an understanding that this Mayor has been vindictive toward his political opponents. He even has a henchman on call. But this, of course, is one the biggest reasons we need a recall.
Where do we send the donations.
Re: Mayor And City Council Double Down On Hate
Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2018 12:55 pm
by Stan Austin
[quote
I wonder if Tristan Radar and Meghan George our newly elected council people would endorse a recall election? With them on board it might be easier.][/quote]
I really think that the new council members need time to settle in, learn the job, and promote individual issues.
Any recall effort to be truly successful must be a genuine citizen effort.
Stan Austin
Re: Mayor And City Council Double Down On Hate
Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2018 1:24 pm
by Michael Deneen
Any discussions of "recall" need to include our Ward council members....particularly Sam the Sham and David Anderson.
Re: Mayor And City Council Double Down On Hate
Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2018 2:10 pm
by Bill Call
I could be wrong but I expect the two new members of Council to fit right in.
Re: Mayor And City Council Double Down On Hate
Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2018 2:23 pm
by Jim O'Bryan
Peter Grossetti wrote:Let’s hope this proposed new ordinance has a turn in city council’s Finance Committee ... for no other reason than to discuss/debate the effect pending and subsequent law suits will have on the city’s budget/finances.
Bill
I spoke with a council person on Finance committee last, not sure about this year. And they said the conversation over cost of lawsuits never came up.
I said, "Never?" and they said "Never."
Ken Warren once said that politicians in Lakewood manage through "benign neglect."
Websters Dictionary defines it as: " an attitude or policy of ignoring an often delicate or undesirable situation that one is held to be responsible for dealing with."
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Re: Mayor And City Council Double Down On Hate
Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2018 2:51 pm
by cmager
Michael Deneen wrote:Any discussions of "recall" need to include our Ward council members....particularly Sam the Sham and David Anderson.
A nice idea, but a different standard. The City Charter calls for signatures in a number exceeding 25% of the last quantity of votes in non-city-wide (Ward) elections. I suppose At-Large would still be 15%.
Re: Mayor And City Council Double Down On Hate
Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2018 7:10 pm
by Bridget Conant
cmager wrote:Here is a good discussion on the "New New BSL" Legislation over on FB. Great idea to get it routed to the Finance Committee, but of course the illustrious Pae will deem it a financial benefit to the city. https://www.facebook.com/groups/1534757 ... 359338766/
It’s all over Facebook. Great discussion.
They send in some guy employed in Lake County to “learn us” how great this proposed legislation is - all double talk.
My guess is they are trying to disarm the anti-BSL group by pretending to capitulate and substitute a “kinder, gentler” Law. Then when the vocal majority quiets down, they ran through an even more restrictive law.
But, thankfully, no one is buying it. They see right through the duplicity. And there is more talk of a recall.
Re: Mayor And City Council Double Down On Hate
Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2018 8:54 pm
by Dan Alaimo
Bridget Conant wrote:[q3uote="cmager"]Here is a good discussion on the "New New BSL" Legislation over on FB. Great idea to get it routed to the Finance Committee, but of course the illustrious Pae will deem it a financial benefit to the city. https://www.facebook.com/groups/1534757 ... 359338766/
It’s all over Facebook. Great discussion.
They send in some guy employed in Lake County to “learn us” how great this proposed legislation is - all double talk.
My guess is they are trying to disarm the anti-BSL group by pretending to capitulate and substitute a “kinder, gentler” Law. Then when the vocal majority quiets down, they ran through an even more restrictive law.
But, thankfully, no one is buying it. They see right through the duplicity. And there is more talk of a recall.[/quote]
Check out the guy's fb page. There is a picture of his campaign signs from Council election. Guess who?
Re: Mayor And City Council Double Down On Hate
Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2018 9:01 pm
by Dan Alaimo
Michael Deneen wrote:Any discussions of "recall" need to include our Ward council members....particularly Sam the Sham and David Anderson.
Let's cut off the head of the snake and go from there.
Re: Mayor And City Council Double Down On Hate
Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2018 9:07 pm
by Dan Alaimo
Jim O'Bryan wrote:
Mark Kindt wrote:Last version was: "Let's debate hen ownership while we secretly liquidate the hospital."
Mark
Early on I compared what the city was about to go through with sleight of hand magic. Warning, when at a magic show always watch the hand you think is doing nothing. Misdirection is the single biggest key to all magic and disappearing acts.
In this elaborate production we had misdirection (cute animals), and (Cleveland Clinic wants out), sleight of hand, (the hospital is losing money we have too), charades (let the community decide) and even a do not look behind the curtain (LHF funds cannot be touched and are not connected to the hospital).
It continues to this day.
Sadly, Lakewood was played, and it would seem the roll of the Rube was easily filled.
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Don't forget the basketball controversy. They started it right during the time they were negotiating with CCF.
Re: Mayor And City Council Double Down On Hate
Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2018 9:30 pm
by Bridget Conant
Check out the guy's fb page. There is a picture of his campaign signs from Council election. Guess who?
The three stooges: Bullock, Marx, and Nowlin!
So obvious.
Re: Mayor And City Council Double Down On Hate
Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2018 10:35 pm
by Bridget Conant
Funny FB comment regarding the proposed dog legislation:
“Okay so I am understanding that if you put the mayor on a short leash, get him fixed and put a muzzle on him he will not be aggressive and he will be more socialized.”
Re: Mayor And City Council Double Down On Hate
Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 8:39 pm
by Kate McCarthy
I was beyond impressed by the public comments made in last night's council meeting regarding the proposed dog legislation. It is still BSL, not founded in any science, and the body language of Summers' partisans like Cindy Marx in the audience shows they are tone deaf to any facts that shake their world view. More evidence that we are living in our own little Trumpsville.
