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Re: Re-Imagining Lakewood Park as Mixed-Use Development/Marina

Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2017 1:29 pm
by Jim O'Bryan
Michael Deneen wrote:Maybe it's time for City Hall to revive Fitzy's Grand Vision of a County Jail in Lakewood.
Trump's "Law and Order" Administration offers lots of growth opportunities for incarceration facilities.

Lakewood Park has plenty of room! And I'm sure the Team Summers crowd won't mind living next door to a lockup.
Actually he had the FitzGerald County Prison, "With the cream of the criminal crop." was to be built between Lakewood and Alameda.

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Re: Re-Imagining Lakewood Park as Mixed-Use Development/Marina

Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2017 3:15 pm
by Dan Alaimo
Looks to me like the broad scope of this plan adds while not subtracting from the park.

Re: Re-Imagining Lakewood Park as Mixed-Use Development/Marina

Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2017 8:56 pm
by cmager
Jim O'Bryan wrote:"With the cream of the criminal crop."
The best. Only the best.

Re: Re-Imagining Lakewood Park as Mixed-Use Development/Marina

Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 2:36 pm
by cameron karslake
james fitzgibbons wrote:Brilliant Idea Brian! Maybe it is too big for the local developers.
I agree it's brilliant but I think it is too big for local minds. :roll:

Re: Re-Imagining Lakewood Park as Mixed-Use Development/Marina

Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 5:32 pm
by jackie f taylor
I commend and support your vision of Lakewood Park, what a great vision, that's where I vote my tax dollars go. I'm too old to enjoy it, but our future residents will love it.

Re: Re-Imagining Lakewood Park as Mixed-Use Development/Marina

Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 5:37 pm
by jackie f taylor
There should be a Marina, docking, restaurants, hotel's. Cabs taking visitors to various restaurants, clubs, bars, Lakewood's attractions, like Vermilion, Marblehead, Geneva on the Lake. We are on the lake.

Re: Re-Imagining Lakewood Park as Mixed-Use Development/Marina

Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 5:42 pm
by jackie f taylor
I have to laugh cmager, I was once known for only wanting the best... lol. the best cupcakes, the best building, the best flies, the best idiots, the best bull sh_t. lol

Re: Re-Imagining Lakewood Park as Mixed-Use Development/Marina

Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 5:43 pm
by jackie f taylor
I have to laugh cmager, I was once known for only wanting the best... lol. the best cupcakes, the best building, the best flies, the best idiots, the best bull sh_t. lol

Re: Re-Imagining Lakewood Park as Mixed-Use Development/Marina

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 6:59 pm
by todd vainisi
Everytime I scroll past this thread I think it says something about Lakewood Park and using marijuana!

Re: Re-Imagining Lakewood Park as Mixed-Use Development/Marina

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 9:40 am
by Lori Allen _
So, Mr. FitzGerald wanted to build a jail. Couldn't the first prisoners to be put there be FiztGerald, Summers and Extended Company?

Re: Re-Imagining Lakewood Park as Mixed-Use Development/Marina

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 11:21 am
by Jim O'Bryan
todd vainisi wrote:Everytime I scroll past this thread I think it says something about Lakewood Park and using marijuana!
Thanks for the smile.

To Ed FitzGerald's credit, at the time, there was big money in owning prisons. He had crunched the numbers, and many people with fine reputations supported the thinking.

My horror at the time, and often happens here, they have good reasons, but they don't run the full equation. Prison takes up space, makes property denser and harder to get, brings jobs, and perhaps other jobs in the form of bondsman and attorneys. OK, who wants to live in the first ring of streets from the prison? Second ring? Within it's security lights? I pointed out to Ed that many of the people that go to prisons to visit prisoners were sketchy. Also prisoners we released at the door?

The next time the plan surfaced he had moved it to Berea Road.

What seems to escape so many is the city spent nearly a quarter billion dollars on education, schools, libraries, parks. How does a city, county, federal prison add to that investment?

I just wanted to clear up that Ed wasn't completely nuts, though I still chuckle at "Jim, I can get us the cream of the crop of prisoners."

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Re: Re-Imagining Lakewood Park as Mixed-Use Development/Marina

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 11:46 am
by Lori Allen _
I don't think our alleged city criminals would be considered the cream of the crop!

Re: Re-Imagining Lakewood Park as Mixed-Use Development/Marina

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 12:12 pm
by Jim O'Bryan
Lori Allen _ wrote:I don't think our alleged city criminals would be considered the cream of the crop!
Well as they have not yet been convicted, or charged, or possibly even investigated, I would think they would not be part of the judging process.

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Re: Re-Imagining Lakewood Park as Mixed-Use Development/Marina

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 12:23 pm
by Lori Allen _
I think we all what they all have allegedly done. So, maybe they don't get caught. Committing a crime still makes you a criminal. I believe we all know where they belong!

Re: Re-Imagining Lakewood Park as Mixed-Use Development/Marina

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 12:31 pm
by Jim O'Bryan
Lori Allen _ wrote:I think we all what they all have allegedly done. So, maybe they don't get caught. Committing a crime still makes you a criminal. I believe we all know where they belong!

Actually

I thought we were talking about dreams for Lakewood Park.

I could be wrong.

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