Patrick Wadden wrote:Jenn Karaffa Pae
The City is not involved if there are such talks.
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Richard Cole
Are there such talks?
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Jenn Karaffa Pae
Not to the City's knowledge.
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Richard Cole
So ... there is no truth to the rumors?
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Jenn Karaffa Pae
You would need to talk to the owners of the property if they are talking about their property: PSENICKA FAMILY, LLC.
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Richard Cole
Have the city disposed of the 5.7 acres?
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Jenn Karaffa Pae
No because the Cleveland Clinic s leasing it for their Emergency Department and outpatient services until their own facility is built across the street which is slated to open in mid-2018.
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Richard Cole
... so there is truth to the rumors?
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Jenn Karaffa Pae
There is no rumor that the City owns the 5.7 acres where the former hospital building still stands on the southeast corner of Belle and Detroit, and is leasing it to the Cleveland Clinic until they complete the construction of their Family Health Center and Emergency Department on the property that they bought from the City earlier this year on the southwest corner of Belle and Detroit. The current post office building at 1475 Warren Road has nothing to do with the city or the hospital.
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Richard Cole
Thanks, I will take your initial response as being a definitive statement. Appreciate your input, as always
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Mr. Wadden,
Thank you for your hard work on this.
This is Priceless!
Re: Lakewood Post Office Moving To Hospital Site
Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2016 9:35 am
by Bridget Conant
I loved the round about answers.
"Not to the city's knowledge" and "talk to the property owners" and reminding us who owns the hospital property as if we didn't know.
Sounds to me like posturing.
Re: Lakewood Post Office Moving To Hospital Site
Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2016 9:39 am
by Michael Deneen
It looks like Jen Pae is retaining her position as "City Hall Mouthpiece" even after the election.
Re: Lakewood Post Office Moving To Hospital Site
Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2016 10:09 am
by cmager
Mr. Wadden, I have a list of topics that I would like to post on The Deck in the next month. I seek your advance pre-clearance of these items so that they meet your incredible standards. I also seek your approval of those with whom I speak, or with whom I might speak, or with whom I am allowed to speak. I know that I must report to you all of my relevant conversations - do you prefer this document on a weekly, monthly, or quarterly basis?
I am thrilled that you have designated yourself as person-in-charge, to keep proper order, to make Lakewood great again.
By the way, your trash cans are out early - you are such a rule-breaker, you rebel!
Re: Lakewood Post Office Moving To Hospital Site
Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2016 8:35 pm
by Dan Alaimo
I would think their grand designs for the hospital property are grander than a post office, but then our centerpiece shopping center is anchored by Marc's.
It's not unthinkable that the PO would move. It's on a prime piece of property and I'm guessing that because of current trends in their business, they don't need as much space as they did when the took over the current building.
Re: Lakewood Post Office Moving To Hospital Site
Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2016 10:35 pm
by m buckley
Dan OMalley wrote:
Bridget Conant wrote:Councilman Anderson
Councilman O'Malley
You both read here. Can at least one of you comment?
Are there plans for the Lakewood Post Office to move to the hospital site?
I am not aware of any discussions about plans for the former hospital site, whether for a post office or anything else.
I won't even bother with Mr. Waddles contribution to this thread other than to echo that it's priceless.
I would point out with respect to Mr. O'Malley's less than definitive response, that there was a time when some from the "Council of Heroes" could plausibly state that they were not aware of any discussion or plans to decant and destroy Lakewood Hospital. Despite the fact that those plans were most definitely in motion.
Given what has transpired neither Mr. O'Malley nor the rest of them merit the benefit of the doubt. Plausible deniability isn't cutting it.
Mr. O'Malley how about asking some direct questions of Summers and "the powers that be" regarding plans for the former hospital site.
How about being a little less vague, a little less passive, and a lot more aware of the deal that you backed and what comes in the wake of that decision.
A good starting point would be a concrete answer regarding the post office.
Re: Lakewood Post Office Moving To Hospital Site
Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2016 11:24 pm
by Dan OMalley
m buckley wrote:
Dan OMalley wrote:
Bridget Conant wrote:Councilman Anderson
Councilman O'Malley
You both read here. Can at least one of you comment?
Are there plans for the Lakewood Post Office to move to the hospital site?
I am not aware of any discussions about plans for the former hospital site, whether for a post office or anything else.
I won't even bother with Mr. Waddles contribution to this thread other than to echo that it's priceless.
I would point out with respect to Mr. O'Malley's less than definitive response, that there was a time when some from the "Council of Heroes" could plausibly state that they were not aware of any discussion or plans to decant and destroy Lakewood Hospital. Despite the fact that those plans were most definitely in motion.
Given what has transpired neither Mr. O'Malley nor the rest of them merit the benefit of the doubt. Plausible deniability isn't cutting it.
Mr. O'Malley how about asking some direct questions of Summers and "the powers that be" regarding plans for the former hospital site.
How about being a little less vague, a little less passive, and a lot more aware of the deal that you backed and what comes in the wake of that decision.
A good starting point would be a concrete answer regarding the post office.
How was I being passive or vague? Not sure I could have been any clearer or more direct.
Re: Lakewood Post Office Moving To Hospital Site
Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2016 7:51 am
by Brian Essi
Dan OMalley wrote:
m buckley wrote:
Dan OMalley wrote:
Bridget Conant wrote:Councilman Anderson
Councilman O'Malley
You both read here. Can at least one of you comment?
Are there plans for the Lakewood Post Office to move to the hospital site?
I am not aware of any discussions about plans for the former hospital site, whether for a post office or anything else.
I won't even bother with Mr. Waddles contribution to this thread other than to echo that it's priceless.
I would point out with respect to Mr. O'Malley's less than definitive response, that there was a time when some from the "Council of Heroes" could plausibly state that they were not aware of any discussion or plans to decant and destroy Lakewood Hospital. Despite the fact that those plans were most definitely in motion.
Given what has transpired neither Mr. O'Malley nor the rest of them merit the benefit of the doubt. Plausible deniability isn't cutting it.
Mr. O'Malley how about asking some direct questions of Summers and "the powers that be" regarding plans for the former hospital site.
How about being a little less vague, a little less passive, and a lot more aware of the deal that you backed and what comes in the wake of that decision.
A good starting point would be a concrete answer regarding the post office.
How was I being passive or vague? Not sure I could have been any clearer or more direct.
Mr. O'Malley,
Thank you for your continued contributions to the Deck and your continued efforts to represent the citizens of Lakewood.
I accept your statement as fact--that you are not aware of any discussions.
Mr. Buckley,
The fact that Bill Call has a source, Mr. O'Malley has not been privy to any discussions and that Jenn Pae has written whatever it is that she has written (on her FaceBook answering questions here on the Deck???) gives me "zero" confidence that we know anything about the "Big Dream" of Team Summers at to the former hospital site or elsewhere in Lakewood.
Team Summers is the worst "Dream Team" of city planners in Lakewood's history--Honest Dru's departure left minions of other losers to fill the void in "dreaming voids".
From where I sit, I think it is premature to conclude that Mr. O'Malley has received the secret handshake and full membership in Team Summers' planning commission---but I trust that efforts are underway to break Mr. O'Malley of his integrity and character, including City Hall's version of "waterboarding" him.
If Bill Call's nugget of insider info turns out to be real, then it might only mean that the "Crampton Shopping Plaza" will be 2 blocks closer to Warren Road I-90 access on the current post office site. That will mean that we might score anchor tenants like K-Mart or Arby's instead of "We Buy Gold" and "Hair & Nails."
So until the reality is revealed, let's just dream on...
Re: Lakewood Post Office Moving To Hospital Site
Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2016 8:50 am
by cameron karslake
cmager wrote:
Stan Austin wrote:Hey!!! Let's put a Fazio's at the soon to be old Post Office site
Nice spot for a hospital.
The Post Office site would not be subject to the "restrictive covenant" in the master agreement.
But I guess it's a moot point.
Re: Lakewood Post Office Moving To Hospital Site
Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2016 8:56 am
by Lori Allen _
I think by now it has been proven time and time again that anyone who would take Mr. O'Malley's words for truth would be a damn fool. I bet that if the Post Office moves, Summers and Council will put the World of Bars in it's place. Complete with E-Cig stores, Smoking lounges, and Burner Cell Phones stores. This appears to be the only kind of "economic development" they all are capable of. Perhaps that is because it hits close to home for them!
Re: Lakewood Post Office Moving To Hospital Site
Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2016 8:59 am
by Ryan Salo
Isn't the board of education on Warren going to be vacant soon? Is this just a land swap so they can develop on a better street?
Re: Lakewood Post Office Moving To Hospital Site
Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2016 9:00 am
by cameron karslake
Dan OMalley wrote:
Bridget Conant wrote:Councilman Anderson
Councilman O'Malley
You both read here. Can at least one of you comment?
Are there plans for the Lakewood Post Office to move to the hospital site?
I am not aware of any discussions about plans for the former hospital site, whether for a post office or anything else.
Why am I not surprised?
You have to be part of their inner circle, Dan.
After years of scheming, after years of executive sessions, after years of fuss and BS, after years of ignoring cries from the public for more information... And there's no plan, what?!
Re: Lakewood Post Office Moving To Hospital Site
Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2016 9:08 am
by Lori Allen _
Thread drifting, but, I heard that someone is trying to have the original school house deemed a historical monument. Summers and Extended Company seem to have no problems tearing down historical properties that have nothing wrong with them.
Maybe they could build World of Bars II on that sight. That way Summers and Council could emphasize even more their love for bars, vapor lounges, cigarettes and burner cell phone stores. It certainly is the ONLY thing in their line of "economic development".
If Summers and Company want to make us the healthiest city in America, then why have they used our tax payer dollars to buy several employees at City Hall, who live close enough to walk to work, cars?
Re: Lakewood Post Office Moving To Hospital Site
Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2016 2:14 pm
by dl meckes
Bill, I had heard that City Hall wanted to move to the hospital site because they didn't want to mingle with criminals and miscreants.
However, since your track record with sharing news with me has been 100% correct, I have to believe you.
