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Re: Public Records Show Questionable Voting Activity + Possible Fraud in Lakewood
Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2016 12:39 pm
by Patrick Wadden
Bridget Conant wrote:On the documents Lori posted, all I see are street names with almost all the addresses blacked out. Last names are also blacked out.
If I look at the lists, I see random first names and a street name, not enough to really identify a particular person unless one undertook some additional Googling. So, it doesn't seem like some egregious "outing" of anyone.
Fact is, as much as you might not like it, it is public information that anyone has access to. Just like if you have a mortgage, or not. Or filed for divorce. There's lots of information available that you might consider "private," but the state considers it public. FWIW, Those records ARE public and anyone can view them.
Thanks Captain Obvious. So you are completely comfortable with falsely accusing people of voter fraud based on Lori Allan's combing over of the county website? Nice.
Re: Public Records Show Questionable Voting Activity + Possible Fraud in Lakewood
Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2016 12:45 pm
by Valerie Molinski
Bridget Conant wrote:On the documents Lori posted, all I see are street names with almost all the addresses blacked out. Last names are also blacked out.
If I look at the lists, I see random first names and a street name, not enough to really identify a particular person unless one undertook some additional Googling. So, it doesn't seem like some egregious "outing" of anyone.
Fact is, as much as you might not like it, it is public information that anyone has access to. Just like if you have a mortgage, or not. Or filed for divorce. There's lots of information available that you might consider "private," but the state considers it public. FWIW, Those records ARE public and anyone can view them.
People need to stop encouraging or condoning this. Ignoring it as harmless would also be irresponsible.
Re: Public Records Show Questionable Voting Activity + Possible Fraud in Lakewood
Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2016 1:01 pm
by Lori Allen _
I think my point has been made. Apparently, it has a few people that have now come out of the woodwork very upset. I feel that the anger should be directed at government that apparently permitted this to happen, sometimes in more than one election. Again, hopefully this will all come out in the wash, as the evidence has been turned over through the proper channels. At this point, it would probably be best to wait on the results of the investigation and then this can be re-visited. I wanted to put this out there just to make sure voters are honest and vigilant, as every good citizen should be.
Re: Public Records Show Questionable Voting Activity + Possible Fraud in Lakewood
Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2016 9:28 pm
by Jim O'Bryan
Lori
The one house that was torn down on Gladys, was still owned by the person on the sheet. It collapsed.
He was living in his, let's say motorhome, which would still allow him to vote at that address.
I am not arguing the point, but underlining, the number of votes, and the fraud aspect of voting are rare.
If I hear more, I will let you know.
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Re: Public Records Show Questionable Voting Activity + Possible Fraud in Lakewood
Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2016 11:57 am
by Lori Allen _
You can't vote from an empty lot. Of course, I suppose he could be homeless and sleeping on the lot, but I did not see him there.
Re: Public Records Show Questionable Voting Activity + Possible Fraud in Lakewood
Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2016 1:03 pm
by Jim O'Bryan
Lori Allen _ wrote:You can't vote from an empty lot. Of course, I suppose he could be homeless and sleeping on the lot, but I did not see him there.
Lori
It was my understanding he was technically still in the lot, so his vote was legitimate.
I find some of the housing issues interesting, but as a way to rig elections it seems pretty hard way, per vote.
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Re: Public Records Show Questionable Voting Activity + Possible Fraud in Lakewood
Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2016 1:44 pm
by Patrick Wadden
Jim O'Bryan wrote:Lori Allen _ wrote:You can't vote from an empty lot. Of course, I suppose he could be homeless and sleeping on the lot, but I did not see him there.
Lori
It was my understanding he was technically still in the lot, so his vote was legitimate.
I find some of the housing issues interesting, but as a way to rig elections it seems pretty hard way, per vote.
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"but as a way to rig elections it seems pretty hard way, per vote"......LOL
Re: Public Records Show Questionable Voting Activity + Possible Fraud in Lakewood
Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2016 4:58 pm
by Lori Allen _
The house was demolished in 2013. It's not like it just happened last night or even a year ago. However, the vacant lot did not trade hands to City Hall until October of 2015 (before the election), meaning that the homeowner was still being charged taxes and other bills, but that is beside the point.
A friend of mine on Cranford had someone else use their address to vote. Someone that did not even live there. Ever. I am waiting to hear back from the proper authorities regarding this.
There are other discrepancies, but that will be left to the authorities to sort out.
For now, let's sit back, relax, and wait and see what the investigation concludes.
Re: Public Records Show Questionable Voting Activity + Possible Fraud in Lakewood
Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2016 5:00 pm
by jackie f taylor
" Come out in the wash" yea, white wash.....