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Re: 10,000 ER Visits Will Have Nowhere To Go!
Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2015 2:51 pm
by Jim O'Bryan
Bridget Conant wrote:
One member of the LHA suggested that people in Lakewood could take the bus to Avon to see their doctors.

That must have been the same person, I believe it was Dr Jones, who was "concerned" that about 100 Lorain County residents would have to drive into Lakewood! God forbid!
Only to get drunk. Then it is OK, not only is it OK, it is encourage with drunks buses.
Remember when the residents used to have shuttles, now just the drunks.
So much for the millions spent on education!
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Re: 10,000 ER Visits Will Have Nowhere To Go!
Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2015 3:05 pm
by Corey Rossen
Jim O'Bryan wrote:scott gilman wrote:lost in all the conversations are what the reality is the closure of the hospital results in the loss of the in patient beds. I have yet to see were it has been shown there is a medical of clinical need for the in patient beds. The proposal has an ER so work to build that ER to serve the needs of the community that have been hurt by the ACA. Since this whole discussion started there have been changes to Ohio law that can better address the health care of residents that don't need in patient care or are forced out of the inpatient beds by the ACA. That is we're the focus of health care is being directed. Bridgett i have been involved in pre hospital EMS for over 35 years it is not an arrogant comment. Training the community to learn CPR and obstructed airway maneuvers has been proven to save lives. Lakewood has implemented Emergency Medical Dispatch. This trains the Lakewood dispatchers to give pre arrival instructions to people on the scene prior to the arrival of the paramedics. This type of instruction has a positive impact on the outcome of patients and has already saved lives. An expanded community CPR and AED program will save more lives.
Fire Chief Gilman
Thanks for jumping in, but you are used to running into burning buildings, so this must seem mild.
Over the past ten years I have covered the work Lakewood Fired Department does, and have seen first hand the incredible work. Recently Kammy and Brian Essi saved my life, and I got to see first hand how amazing modern ambulances are.
So my questions if you get a chance. What percentage of ambulances go to Lakewood?, Fairview? and Metro? Who makes the choice?
An example, a motorcyclist involved in a head on accident, within eyesight of Fairview Hospital, was taken to Metro? I would imagine that that Metro was the best hospital for the accident, or was it another reason?
Thanks again for wading into the hottest water in town.
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Re: 10,000 ER Visits Will Have Nowhere To Go!
Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2015 4:11 pm
by Dan Alaimo
Jim O'Bryan wrote:scott gilman wrote:lost in all the conversations are what the reality is the closure of the hospital results in the loss of the in patient beds. I have yet to see were it has been shown there is a medical of clinical need for the in patient beds. The proposal has an ER so work to build that ER to serve the needs of the community that have been hurt by the ACA. Since this whole discussion started there have been changes to Ohio law that can better address the health care of residents that don't need in patient care or are forced out of the inpatient beds by the ACA. That is we're the focus of health care is being directed. Bridgett i have been involved in pre hospital EMS for over 35 years it is not an arrogant comment. Training the community to learn CPR and obstructed airway maneuvers has been proven to save lives. Lakewood has implemented Emergency Medical Dispatch. This trains the Lakewood dispatchers to give pre arrival instructions to people on the scene prior to the arrival of the paramedics. This type of instruction has a positive impact on the outcome of patients and has already saved lives. An expanded community CPR and AED program will save more lives.
Fire Chief Gilman
Thanks for jumping in, but you are used to running into burning buildings, so this must seem mild.
Over the past ten years I have covered the work Lakewood Fired Department does, and have seen first hand the incredible work. Recently Kammy and Brian Essi saved my life, and I got to see first hand how amazing modern ambulances are.
So my questions if you get a chance. What percentage of ambulances go to Lakewood?, Fairview? and Metro? Who makes the choice?
An example, a motorcyclist involved in a head on accident, within eyesight of Fairview Hospital, was taken to Metro? I would imagine that that Metro was the best hospital for the accident, or was it another reason?
Thanks again for wading into the hottest water in town.
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I'd like to ride the coattails of some Jim's questions, and say again how good it is to have someone of your expertise in our discussions. Unfortunately, this has been rare.
I'd like to know how the decisions are made where to send the ambulances, and how criteria has evolved in the last year of so.
For example, last fall my very young granddaughter was hurt and needed an ambulance. They asked me which hospital, and I said Lakewood because it was closest and she was in obvious pain. They called ahead and it seemed to me that the conversation took a rather long time, but on the other hand, I was very distracted holding the crying child. We did end up at Lakewood Hospital where she was quickly and well attended to.
And let me add that your EMS team was outstanding in its speed, professionalism and sensitivity.
Re: 10,000 ER Visits Will Have Nowhere To Go!
Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2015 4:46 pm
by Lori Allen _
Jim,
I understand what you are saying.