Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 11:29 am
Ivor,
Halfway through your post I thought I must be reading a post from Gary Rice or other wise adult! Was that you? Extremely well written and insightful.
Right before Christmas my 18 yo called me on a Sunday evening when he was supposed to be working in a panic. He told me he was at the ER and I immediately thought he cut a finger off. But he got a call at work from another friend who told him she found their mutual friend overdosed and she was taken to the ER where her stomach was being pumped. He left work immediately and met her there and called me and said "Mom you HAVE to come" and I say "Why do I have to come?" Not because I didn't want to but I didn't feel I belonged. He said "She has no other family that came". I told him I would put the kids to bed and be up there. But in the next twenty minutes they told him they were transferring to her to Metro since she had no insurance and to go home. For the past several months this girl had been on my mind and I kept asking him to invite her over. He did and she said she would come but never did. Her mom has been gone since she was in Kindergarten and her dad maybe always and she was raised by a grandmother who is ailing in a nursing home so now raised by an uncle. She was kicked out of school for behavior. Gee I wonder why she was so angry? She is 16/17 and working to put food on her own table and the stress from the bills was too much. Do you think she fell through the cracks? I can't speak for the school since I don't know what she did to get kicked out, but couldn't ANYONE see where her anger was coming from and try to help her? Kicking out a teen doesn't cut it. I guess if she were on an IEP they couldn't have done it, but she wasn't. I know her as a smart and kind girl and they probably got to see her anger.
Her life, like so many others in our own neighborhood, is very different from my son's, my own, many of ours. And even in a two parent, relatively or seemingly ok household, teens still go through things and can't talk to their own parents until they pass age 18. I can't blame them since I can listen to other kids without any judgment, but when my own son does stupid things the fear in me rises up and I want to "correct him".
Why parents have a difficult time talking and listening is because when they see things in their kids that are different than them, they are uncomfortable. When they see things in their kids that are similar to them, they FREAK out because they want better for their kids. They don't want them to take that long painful road to get to awareness. They want it to just appear without the pain and mistakes. So we lecture and threaten and beg, and they turn us off. Until they start to make those mistakes and then realize we might know something.
Life is really hard for a lot of people right now and the trickling effect to the children is inevitable. Yes the problems are different. Our children aren't out working in 8th grade instead of being in school because of a depression. Some things are much easier now, but as Ivor stated, the emotions that run through children do not change much from generation to generation. I think if you have a center or something that helps even one teen in a year not commit suicide, it is enough. I don't know what the answer to it is but I hope it gets found.
Halfway through your post I thought I must be reading a post from Gary Rice or other wise adult! Was that you? Extremely well written and insightful.
Right before Christmas my 18 yo called me on a Sunday evening when he was supposed to be working in a panic. He told me he was at the ER and I immediately thought he cut a finger off. But he got a call at work from another friend who told him she found their mutual friend overdosed and she was taken to the ER where her stomach was being pumped. He left work immediately and met her there and called me and said "Mom you HAVE to come" and I say "Why do I have to come?" Not because I didn't want to but I didn't feel I belonged. He said "She has no other family that came". I told him I would put the kids to bed and be up there. But in the next twenty minutes they told him they were transferring to her to Metro since she had no insurance and to go home. For the past several months this girl had been on my mind and I kept asking him to invite her over. He did and she said she would come but never did. Her mom has been gone since she was in Kindergarten and her dad maybe always and she was raised by a grandmother who is ailing in a nursing home so now raised by an uncle. She was kicked out of school for behavior. Gee I wonder why she was so angry? She is 16/17 and working to put food on her own table and the stress from the bills was too much. Do you think she fell through the cracks? I can't speak for the school since I don't know what she did to get kicked out, but couldn't ANYONE see where her anger was coming from and try to help her? Kicking out a teen doesn't cut it. I guess if she were on an IEP they couldn't have done it, but she wasn't. I know her as a smart and kind girl and they probably got to see her anger.
Her life, like so many others in our own neighborhood, is very different from my son's, my own, many of ours. And even in a two parent, relatively or seemingly ok household, teens still go through things and can't talk to their own parents until they pass age 18. I can't blame them since I can listen to other kids without any judgment, but when my own son does stupid things the fear in me rises up and I want to "correct him".
Why parents have a difficult time talking and listening is because when they see things in their kids that are different than them, they are uncomfortable. When they see things in their kids that are similar to them, they FREAK out because they want better for their kids. They don't want them to take that long painful road to get to awareness. They want it to just appear without the pain and mistakes. So we lecture and threaten and beg, and they turn us off. Until they start to make those mistakes and then realize we might know something.
Life is really hard for a lot of people right now and the trickling effect to the children is inevitable. Yes the problems are different. Our children aren't out working in 8th grade instead of being in school because of a depression. Some things are much easier now, but as Ivor stated, the emotions that run through children do not change much from generation to generation. I think if you have a center or something that helps even one teen in a year not commit suicide, it is enough. I don't know what the answer to it is but I hope it gets found.