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Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 3:47 pm
by Jim O'Bryan
Colleen Wing wrote:As far a sign, I would prefer it weren't there. Not because of the candidate but because I think it implies something...an endorsement.
Colleen
So you want me to go to my loving wife of 23 fabulous years. A woman that gives and gives and gives, and never, ever asks for anything, and tell her to take down her sign?
I mean I am 6'4", but she has those pointy little fists that hurt.
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Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 3:57 pm
by Colleen Wing
Maybe you could just ask her to take down the LO sign.

Re: Did the LO endorse Obama or am I missing something?
Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 3:59 pm
by Stephen Eisel
Colleen Wing wrote:Hey, there is a Vote Obama sign in the LO window on Detroit. Did I miss something?
C'mon Colleen.. You know that the acorn does not fall far from the tree...

Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 3:59 pm
by Jim O'Bryan
Colleen Wing wrote:Maybe you could just ask her to take down the LO sign.

Colleen
She would gladly take down the LO Signs.
She loves me in the graphic business, she hates my hobby as publisher.
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Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 4:45 pm
by Ryan Salo
So the Observer did not endorse Obama?
People driving and walking by don't know the "specific corporation arrangements".
The sign is there for people to see and it is right next to the huge LO sign.
Unless you want the image of endorsement why don't you simply remove one of the signs, or just come out and officially endorse him.
You are riding the fence and that is worse then making a decision. O wait, your candidate is great at "PRESENT" votes, you are simply mimicking him. Great job.

endorse away
Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 6:54 pm
by ryan costa
Are newspapers allowed to endorse candidates?
Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 9:18 pm
by dl meckes
The LO has never endorsed a political candidate and has only endorsed one political issue - the school levy.
Jim has strongly felt that being a publisher should not abrogate his rights as an individual.
Re: endorse away
Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 9:22 pm
by Missy Limkemann
ryan costa wrote:Are newspapers allowed to endorse candidates?
Papers do it all the time.
Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 9:27 pm
by Missy Limkemann
Crap!!! I hit "enter" too soon. Darn Law and Order ...LOL.
I know that the Plain Dealer endorses people all the time. I dont know if they do "presidents" but I know they do for others. I remember seeing it before.
I personally never saw the sign, I was just around that area today. Then again, I am one to pay attention to the road, lights, people all around and dont look up at signs.
Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 9:33 pm
by stephen davis
Ryan Salo wrote:So the Observer did not endorse Obama?
People driving and walking by don't know the "specific corporation arrangements".
The sign is there for people to see and it is right next to the huge LO sign.
Unless you want the image of endorsement why don't you simply remove one of the signs, or just come out and officially endorse him.
You are riding the fence and that is worse then making a decision. O wait, your candidate is great at "PRESENT" votes, you are simply mimicking him. Great job.

Get over it.
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Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 9:37 pm
by Jim O'Bryan
Ryan Salo wrote:The sign is there for people to see and it is right next to the huge LO sign.
Unless you want the image of endorsement why don't you simply remove one of the signs, or just come out and officially endorse him.
Ryan
So now you attack my wife, and her 1st Amendment rights.
I would expect that from a person supporting a candidate that encourages the assassination of the other candidate.
Of course it is refreshing seeing you put your real name on the attacks against the LO and my wife.
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Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 10:11 pm
by Ryan Salo
rolling on the floor laughing so hard it hurts.
Pretty sick when the businessman of the year for our city believes in assassination plots by a presidential candidate. Goes to show that if you repeats lies enough even honest people get caught up in them.
Quick comparison - so if the YMCA put up a candidate picture in the window of the hospital wing of its building it wouldnt give the "impression" that the hospital was endorsing the candidate?
Come on Jim, just have your little "board meeting" with all of the "owners" of your club and make an endorsement. At least I would compliment you for having the courage to make a real decision.
BTW - I always use my real name when I knock you and the LO. "Nothing that I haven't said to your face."

Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 10:14 pm
by sharon kinsella
Ryan the LO isn't a 501c3. It is a for profit and can endorse anything it wants to.
Jim - Maybe Ryan will be donating free advertising space to the LO like AGF has.
Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 10:19 pm
by Ryan Salo
Sharon,
Are you reading?
I told him to endorse. I would be fine with that. But to pretend he isn't is a joke.
Trying to walk a line that isn't worth walking.
Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 10:25 pm
by dl meckes
Ryan -
I love your spirit and mind. You have been real treat and inspiration for me. I treasure that. You talents and gifts are absolutely wonderful! Your many writings are absolutely fascinating. Of all the people I have met in my entire life, you surely stand out on top. It is incredible how little I knew about all your wonderful work, certainly a life well lived and I hope that you are well rewarded in the next life. Thank you so much for your enlightenment and wisdom. I wish to go on the permanent record on this matter, you are one of a kind.