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Stephen Eisel
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Post by Stephen Eisel »

Jim DeVito wrote:
Ryan Salo wrote:I think a moderated Politics or hot topics section from now until the election may be good. Have point and counterpoint without name calling and personal attacks.
I would be on board with a point counter point political section for the next 60 or so days.
Jim you ignorant slut... :D :D :D :D from SNL
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Post by Jim O'Bryan »

Stephen Eisel wrote:Ryan, shhhhhh! The last candidate that Jim supported lossed by a landslide.. :D
Ryan

Shhhhhhhhhh, the last person Eisel supported made us all losers. :wink:


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Post by sharon kinsella »

Hmm - I get people telling me to go to h...

That I'm mentally ill and they can't deal with me.

That I'm an unhappy person, some even do it in a cowardly way, they send a private message.

Would that be your idea.

I'm pretty stunned that you're vetting this.

I just believe that if you can't take it, don't dish it out.


Simple, isn't it?
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Post by Danielle Masters »

I am not a fan of heavily moderated boards. I think this one works well. When it gets to heated for me I just take a break.
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Post by Ryan Salo »

Apparently people missed my point, which I thought I stated multiple times.

I do not want to change anything. Just add a moderated section for 60 days or so with professional dialog only, to let the millions :) out there hear two sides of a story without having to filter through name calling and insults.

I want to keep the rest the same so I can call Sharron and Jim names and make rude comments :)
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Post by sharon kinsella »

Back atcha kiddo.
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Post by Ivor Karabatkovic »

Ryan,

First off, if someone out there has an opinion but is afraid to stick by it and voice it on the record, then I encourage them to do so.

I've learned long ago from some good people that post on this forum that you really can't change other people's opinions regardless of how spotless of a case you make, so I've stopped trying.

This board to me seems more of a venting place for many users....and if people agree or disagree that's part of taking the risk. There's nothing I enjoy more than reading how others in the community feel about issues close to us.

You learn to look over the personal attacks and just read the content and what the person is trying to say. Even though I can't agree a lot of times with fellow users, there have been many times where I've sat and pondered others' points of view and came out of the dialogue a bit more understanding about the issue.

What you see on this forum just by the passion of posts is that the city of Lakewood has very passionate citizens that are shakers and movers...citizens that take issues very close to heart.

I think the reason for the personal attacks is that many feel robbed of eight years of their lives and the issues that are present for our country have become so personal that our arguments and posts become very personal too.

To moderate something like passionate dialogue is to put a pillow over a hungry crying baby's head. The cry will be heard somewhere by someone...regardless of how hard a person tries to mute it. We all are hungry for something, whether it's the hungry baby that wants food, the citizen that wants the right to have any dog that they want, the homeless man that just wants some kind of help, or the right to health care, or the right to have dialogue between neighbors free and unscripted. It's all relative and it's all positive, regardless of the negative sparks that may sometimes fly.

It's best to treat it all as water underneath the bridge.

Do we want our thoughts to be dictated by teleprompters? Our thoughts, feelings and opinions are the only real thing we humans can call our own..everything else can all disappear one day...
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Post by Ryan Salo »

I was trying to have a more "professional" section.

If you watch the news, which I am sure you do, you can hear both sides of an issue without name calling and insults.

I believe you can influence people through facts and arguments. Maybe not the posters but the people reading.

If I wanted information on a topic I would not want to have to weed through things. Just give me both sides in a professional manor and let me chose.

Point Counterpoint is my thought, have maybe a dozen or so topics and keep it simply to the argument and not focused on the presenter.
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Nothin' shakin' on Shakedown Street.
Used to be the heart of town.
Don't tell me this town ain't got no heart.
You just gotta poke around.

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Post by Jim O'Bryan »

Ryan Salo wrote:I was trying to have a more "professional" section.
Would Eisel still be able to call me...

a tool

an idiot

and ignorant slut?


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Post by Ryan Salo »

I am so impressed with the responses.

Proves my point, thanks to all who participated.

Peace out.
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Post by Jim O'Bryan »

Ryan Salo wrote:I am so impressed with the responses.

Proves my point, thanks to all who participated.

Peace out.

Ryan

Welcome to my world.

You have to let it roll off your back, and move on.

I like Stephen and Sharon, and you, and on and on. I would not want to change one thing or one word. I love that we are all framed and defined by our posts and our thoughts.

I am still willing to work with you or anyone that would like to add or change things on the Deck.

I am dedicated to make this work for all, or all that have something to say.

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If not, don't worry. Just forget about it."
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Post by Stephen Eisel »

Would Eisel still be able to call me...

a tool

an idiot

and ignorant slut?
and my little pumpkin :wink:
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Post by Stephen Eisel »

The slut was Jim Devito.... :wink: you big tease
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Post by Jim DeVito »

Stephen Eisel wrote:The slut was Jim Devito.... :wink: you big tease
I love you too man!! ;-)
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