There is a place for that, you know

Joe Ott · Post by **Joe Ott** » Fri Jul 11, 2008 7:34 am

Kyle Weigand wrote:Well, Joe...since this year-old-discussion has taken place, what has been done to your knowledge to effectively rectify the situation?...

Exactly. So we'll continue discussing it until people in this city learn to confront these pissers, tell them what's what and wait there until the cops show up.

Is it time to start taking back our city yet? Is anyone else ready?

The point was to show what people were saying about this during last years discussion and perhaps spur more discussion instead of rehashing it which is typically the case here with no resolution. Not to provoke a smart ass reply.

Corey Rossen · Post by **Corey Rossen** » Fri Jul 11, 2008 8:37 am

Diane Helbig wrote:I like to think I have a relatively good sense of humor, but really now - doesn't anyone take this seriously?

I do think a lot of people take this seriously, but if I've learned one thing with dealing with the stuff like this...it is to have a sense of humor about it. I know my wife would be upset if someone urinated on her flowers and I know I would be upset if someone were urinating outside/near my house. How much more serious can one be? We are not the police and the police cannot be everywhere dealing with every issue. If the police see a person urinating I'm sure they act on it. Until we instill better morals in every person who has to take a pee, it will continue to be problem. I can tell you now that I would be the last person to have an "intervention" when I see someone circling a fire hydrant with their hand on their zipper.

Corey

Diane Helbig · Post by **Diane Helbig** » Fri Jul 11, 2008 9:25 am

Corey, that's exactly the problem. When the witness talked to the cops, pointed out the person, and they talked to him, the cops 'advised' him. Ooooh, scary.

The way you stop the big problems from happening is to stop the small things from happening. Crack down. Send a message out that we're mad as hell and we're not going to take it any more. The message that Lakewood will no longer tolerate criminal, disruptive behavior. STAND UP.

J Hrlec · Post by **J Hrlec** » Fri Jul 11, 2008 10:40 am

Diane Helbig wrote:Corey, that's exactly the problem. When the witness talked to the cops, pointed out the person, and they talked to him, the cops 'advised' him. Ooooh, scary.

The way you stop the big problems from happening is to stop the small things from happening. Crack down. Send a message out that we're mad as hell and we're not going to take it any more. The message that Lakewood will no longer tolerate criminal, disruptive behavior. STAND UP.

In your example above, did the police catch this person while in the act? Unless they did what can they do but advise, the law can't simply take disciplinary action immediately on a witnesses "word". What if the witness made a mistake, or what if someone simply lies to get someone in trouble. Should they handcuff the suspects "unit" to the tree or bush which was soiled?

I agree we should be vigilant on behavior which acts against ordinances or laws in both big and small ways, however I am not sure how we can act against this specific topic unless we can catch people in the act...which I assume is really hard, since the first thing I would do if needing to urinate outside is ensuring no one is watching, especially police.

Diane Helbig · Post by **Diane Helbig** » Fri Jul 11, 2008 5:31 pm

from what i understand, the pisser confessed.

Corey Rossen · Post by **Corey Rossen** » Sat Jul 12, 2008 8:33 am

Diane Helbig wrote:from what i understand, the pisser confessed.

Book him, Danno! (If I've misquoted this, maybe it will make me seem young.)

Will Brown · Post by **Will Brown** » Sat Jul 12, 2008 11:38 am

A little old lady is walking down the street, dragging two plastic garbage bags with her, one in each hand. There's a hole in one of the bags, and every once in a while a $20 bill is flying out of it onto the pavement.
Noticing this, a policeman stops her. "Ma'am, there are $20 bills falling out of that bag."
"Damn!" says the little old lady. "I'd better go back and see if I can still find some. Thanks for the warning!"
"Well now, not so fast," says the cop. "How did you get all that money? Did you steal it?"
"Oh, no", says the little old lady. "You see, my back yard borders on the parking lot of the football stadium. Each time there's a game, a lot of fans come and pee in the bushes, right into my flower beds! So I go and stand behind the bushes with a big hedge clipper, and each time someone sticks his pecker through the bushes, I say: $20 or off it comes!"
"Hey, not a bad idea!" laughs the cop. "Good luck! By the way, what's in the other bag?"
"Well", says the little old lady, "not all of 'em pays up!"