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Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 10:21 am
by Jim O'Bryan
Justine Cooper wrote:questions for who? Who is going to answer them? Neither Coffee Pot or La Pita had any idea they would be hit up twice in a calendar year. People are asking questions and getting questions back. So who has the answers?
Justine

The problem is, when you start a new business you have to go to city hall and find this stuff out. I know it is painful, and I know it hit both hard. When I did my restaurant (hot dog carts) in Cleveland. I knew going in that I had to build a commissary with men's and women's rooms, double doors, stainless steel sink and fire equipment, even though they would never be needed.

The reason was, the restaurant owners wanted to make sure we had to make the same investments they did to open. Stupid, yes, Unfair, not really as we could move the carts anywhere even in front of their business, or move with the traffic.

All I am saying is that many, not all the times I hear complaints about the building department it is because the call was not made first. That is all I am saying.

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Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 12:52 pm
by Mary Anne Crampton
Corey....you could be a big help to us in figuring out the "best practice" for welcoming and supporting new businesses in Lakewood. Rozi's has a store in another city. How does it work there?

How did you find out about space available?
Who is the first to shake your hand?
Is there an ombudsman that helps you work through issues as they come up with the planning or building departments?
Who approaches you with the opportunity to use programs funded by taxpayers to revitalize/rehab/upgrade the space?
Is there a "how to" booklet for working through the process?

I would greatly appreciate hearing about how other cities do it right. If you have any materials that we could use as models, I would be so grateful.

To answer your other question as to how to find info about city programs, I think the first place most people go to for any information these days is Google. Type in Lakewood Ohio. Click on "Welcome to Lakewood Ohio" link to city website. Go to Planning and Development Department. Go to Division of Community Development, there you will see all the "programs to help residents and businesses maintain property values and improve the appearance of our community" http://www.ci.lakewood.oh.us/dept_plann ... _cdbg.html

Also, on this page, on the left hand column is a link to the Commercial Space Available site, which is updated quarterly.
http://www.ci.lakewood.oh.us/pdf/2008_P ... nter08.pdf

My request concerning best practices is open to all Observers. We are so willing to learn. I don't know anyone associated with Main Street Lakewood or the City Planning or Building Departments who isn't already trying to do their best and isn't open to learning how to do things better.

Mary Anne

Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 2:38 pm
by Corey Rossen
Rozi's has a store in another city. How does it work there?
Back in the days when dinosaurs roamed, and State Liquor Stores existed, we always located ourselves next door to the State Stores (Lakewood, Rocky River, Cleveland, N. Olmsted, Fairview, etc). It has always worked well for us, the state would select a location and we would move right in next door. Our Rocky River store is actually in its second location in RR. We were originall in Rockport Plaza from 1978 (next to the State Store) until about 1988 when the State Store notified us they were relocating to River Oaks Plaza. We simply found the space right next to them, made them an offer they couldn't refuse, and have been there since (we expanded into the State's location when the liquor licenses were privatized).
How did you find out about space available?
For us, simple, we followed the State's move. In our business, we've discovered the advantages of being next to the State Stores. We made an offer to the existing tenant and moved in.
Who is the first to shake your hand?
The landlord of River Oaks Plaza, they had us, a tenant who actually sought them out--novel idea. No City Gov. was needed other then the obvious inspections and codes to be followed.
Is there an ombudsman that helps you work through issues as they come up with the planning or building departments?
We have not encountered any issues with the city, our landlord has resolved any issues but you may want to ask them who they deal with (we are not the building owner so comparing our RR store to Lakewood does differ slightly).
Who approaches you with the opportunity to use programs funded by taxpayers to revitalize/rehab/upgrade the space?
It is rented space, the landlord.
Is there a "how to" booklet for working through the process?
Your response here...Google it!
I would greatly appreciate hearing about how other cities do it right. If you have any materials that we could use as models, I would be so grateful.
Whether other cities do it right or not, we are talking about Lakewood here. I could do your research for you but that would take the fun away from it, now wouldn't it? I don't have materials for this, check with the city, maybe they do.


To answer your other question as to how to find info about city programs, I think the first place most people go to for any information these days is Google.
Thanks for the refresher course on Googling 101, but why should a business owner have to resort to that impersonal measure when the City Planner and Mainstreet Program President are standing in the storefront. Are you suggesting that the next meeting (Tuesday at 9am with the Planning Dept if you want to be there) should take place next to our computer in the store so we can look up an answer? Flesh and blood were in the store asking us to spend money on their program that don't have answers for. Do you understand that as a small family business we are not dealing with WalMart-Style funding? It is not as simple as "hurry up and sign the papers so we can get this program started." We would love to be able to throw money around at your whim, but it doesn't work like that. You throw in some money from your own pocket and we'll be able to commit that much faster.
http://www.ci.lakewood.oh.us/dept_planning_DCD_cdbg.html
Had you told us this days ago, when you stopped in, we wouldn't have to rely on Google or the very helpfulness of other Observers such as Shawn (thanks again for the post/link). That is all I was asking, a place to find out what programs are going on. Now I may have taken your tone as "flip" in your response and thus prompting me to this long reply (my fingers needed the exercise anyway), but if I was wrong about your tone then I must have read this wrong. A simple posting, phone call, letter, response of the info for the website would have sufficed.
We are so willing to learn. I don't know anyone associated with Main Street Lakewood or the City Planning or Building Departments who isn't already trying to do their best and isn't open to learning how to do things better.
Agreed!

Corey

Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 3:14 pm
by Ruthie Koenigsmark
Hi-All!

Thanks Corey for getting this post started. In my humble opinion there needs to be a Small Business Ambassador Program for new businesses --someone to make it so easy to do business here and OPEN--check out San Jose's program as a start

http://www.sanjoseca.gov/building/Other/Ambassador.pdf

there are a hundred ways for this to work--we can make it our own!

We really need to think about ways to set ourself a part as a city--and go above and beyond---make business owners feel welcome and supported--these are small things--but important.

Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 4:39 pm
by Mary Anne Crampton
Agree with Ruth! Thanks for getting the conversation started. I was responding to the thread title and the initial post:

Hypothetically...New business interested in moving to L-wood

...who do they turn to? Who do they speak to about ongoing and upcoming programs? Business/city incentive packages? Does Lakewood have a "recruiting team/department?" Upon arrival, whose hand do they shake first?


I think if someone was interested in moving to Lakewood that they would start with a broker or on the internet. I don't have experience in that area. I was serious about my questions.

It would be awesome if an interested party would find "ambassador" on the City of Lakewood - or the Main Street - website like in San Jose. Love that idea!

I know that the city and I agree that keeping and supporting existing businesses is just as important, if not more important, than recruiting new ones. It is clear that there is a lot of work to be done if a three generation business does not feel it has the knowledge of, or access to, longstanding programs available to encourage reinvestment and updated storefronts. I knew your were in contact with the right people at City Hall yesterday, so I did not hurry back with duplicate information today.

My impression is that you are looking out at the larger picture....you are absolutely right that that nothing beats personal attention - your business success has been built on that notion.

let's keep the conversation going.....

Mary Anne

Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 4:52 pm
by Rhonda loje
This is the mission statement of the Lakewood Chamber of Commerce:
The future role of the Chamber in today's business climate is contributing ideas for economic growth, assisting businesses with the resources they need to become successful and maintaining a positive image in the Lakewood community.

Where are they in this discussion?

Rhonda

Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 6:29 pm
by Jim DeVito
Rhonda loje wrote:This is the mission statement of the Lakewood Chamber of Commerce:
The future role of the Chamber in today's business climate is contributing ideas for economic growth, assisting businesses with the resources they need to become successful and maintaining a positive image in the Lakewood community.

Where are they in this discussion?

Rhonda
Notably Absent.