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Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 2:34 pm
by Rick Uldricks
Jeff Endress wrote:If you're looking for nice signs - check out the many FOR SALE signs, conveniently located in homeowner's front yards.
Yeah Rick....They go hand in glove with all the empty store fronts with for rent signs.
It's a good thing to be focused on a "beer engine".....that way we don't have to look at the "economic engine".
Jeff
Sorry, I don't want to live near a restaurant that has a big, ugly, sign that says "BEER ENGINE" or "BOOZE" on it.
I'm not buying that economic recovery depends upon the BEER ENGINE.
Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 2:36 pm
by Danielle Masters
Jeff, I was excited that a business was moving into that location considering it's a stones throw from my house. I don't care that it is a brewery and I don't drink. I was hoping they would serve decent food and that it would fill a vacant building. What I do have a problem with is the signage. I have to wonder what kind of community the owner thinks this is when he puts up a sign with "BOOZE" on it. BTW I don't like Taco Bell or Burger King signs either but at least they aren't up as high as this sign. I'm sure the placard was grandfathered in because it is up much higher than other freestanding signs in this community. I just think the sign is inappropriate and I hope the owner takes another look at it and changes it.
Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 2:42 pm
by John LePlae
I guess I'm not seeing what everyone else is. What's wrong with the word "booze"? The sign doesn't look ugly or inappropriate to me.
Beer Engine
Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 2:46 pm
by Ken Lipka
A beer engine is a device for pumping beer, according to the internet. I guess the boys in marketing did their job. Why would someone rip on the beer engine name before investigating? Just wondering. I don't like the sign either. It looks like one of those ADULT signs that you see off the highway.
Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 2:50 pm
by Ivor Karabatkovic
that sign sticks out like a sore thumb when you first see it. it looks like they really did their research before putting it up.
Re: Beer Engine
Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 2:55 pm
by Rick Uldricks
Ken Lipka wrote:A beer engine is a device for pumping beer, according to the internet. I guess the boys in marketing did their job. Why would someone rip on the beer engine name before investigating? Just wondering. I don't like the sign either. It looks like one of those ADULT signs that you see off the highway.
Thanks, Ken. I found info on the definition of Beer Engine also.
http://beeradvocate.com/news/stories_read/523/
However, I don't think the average person driving or walking down Madison will look it up on the web.
Re: Beer Engine
Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 3:00 pm
by Jim O'Bryan
My biggest problem is that while this is designed to draw in the power drinker, and would appear to go against many of the sign rules in place, by the ARB.
There is a great little shop that is looking to put up signs and have been told, no way, as they was to change their background from a mellow rose, to a light yellow green?
It will be interesting, Councilman Butler, and Councilman Dever was able to persuade McCarthy's into dropping "Cheap Ass Beer" from their ads. Who knows if they will look at this.
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Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 3:11 pm
by Grace O'Malley
Jeff said:
So, let me get this right....
A new business wants to invest in Lakewood. Not just another bar, but a brew pub with a pretty decent reputation for good craft beers. And more than a bar, a decent restaurant ala Rocky River Brewery or the Brew Kettle. They choose to call their enterprise "Beer Engine"
http://www.buckeyebrewing.com/Page1.html
Unlike the the wonderful signage for Burger King, Taco Bell and Payday check cashing services, we take umbridge at the owner's signage concept.
Where are the secondhand shops and resales when we need them!
Let's run the SOB out of town. How dare he take a vacant store front, bring in a new restaurant, some jobs and revenues and put up a sign that offends our civic sensibilities! No....I'm with you guys....I'm going to Boycott this one! Call City Hall. Maybe with enough pressure we can build some hurdles so the place NEVER opens!
Gotta run, off to Northcoast Mattress for their going out of business sale then to someplace with a nice sign for lunch....maybe Mr. Hero....
So let me get this right.
Are we so desperate for "business" that we're willing to accept substandard, ugly signage?
Do you think Rocky River or Beachwood would allow this type of signage?
Why should we?
Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 3:42 pm
by Jeff Endress
Are we so desperate for "business" that we're willing to accept substandard, ugly signage?
NO. As long as all the signage is as attractive as Mickey D's, Rite Aid or any of the various Check into Cash places, that's cool. Maybe if they painted the restaurant to match the pink storefront to the east it wouldn't be so objectionable.
Okay. I've said more than enough. Anyway, the 10 X 20 foot changing billboard that is the view from my office is about to cycle so I gotta go. My current favorite is the huge Ohio License plate.
Jeff
Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 4:48 pm
by Bret Callentine
So, I'm a little confused. Are there going to be broads or not?
I've been looking for a new bar to call home ever since they knocked down the Warren Tavern to put up the fourth drug store within a quarter mile of my house (five if you count the crack house down the street).
Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 8:32 pm
by Charyn Compeau
OMG....
I am about to fall off of my chair laughing....
And they said that letting that neon go on Burger King wouldn't set a bad precedence....
Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 9:37 pm
by Kate McCarthy
Grace O'Malley wrote:That is one fugly sign!
I wouldn't go there just for that reason.
That just about says it all. Just because of the sign I hope the curse of that location lives on and the business dies as soon as it starts. Except for the horror of the thought of it hovering over a failed enterprise until a new enterprise moves in.
After the inevitable sinking of the Titanic I would love to see a restaurant thrive there but what were they thinking? That sign makes me think of all those tacky destinations on Brookpark Road serving up drinks and/or porn.
Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 3:35 am
by Stan Austin
Well Brett, old pal, Guess we can count on at least two broads who won't be there!
Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 8:20 am
by Jason Stewart
Kate McCarthy wrote:
That just about says it all. Just because of the sign I hope the curse of that location lives on and the business dies as soon as it starts. Except for the horror of the thought of it hovering over a failed enterprise until a new enterprise moves in.
Your comments are about as classy as the sign.
Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 8:40 am
by Jeff Endress
Well Brett, old pal, Guess we can count on at least two broads who won't be there!
Stan.....Shocking, simply shocking. And so unlike you.
Jeff