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Re: Election Results - But Wait There's More
Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 9:18 am
by Bill Call
Will Brown wrote: Willingness to demand basic changes in education to me is far more important...........................
So I would support a candidate who was capable of demanding such changes. But I don't think that has to be done in a confrontational way. I view the unions as being an impediment, as they seem to fight to preserve outmoded methods and policies, but I think a good negotiator could make them see that some changes would benefit both the schools and their members.
My wild guess would be that every candidate feels they meet those requirements.
I don't think any of the changes you feel necessary would take place without confrontation. Health care costs are going up 50% over the next 3 years (about $4 million per year). The most the LTA is willing to agree to is to pay $400,000 per year more. They also ask for annual raises based on time in service and not on performance.
I tried to agrgue for greater cost savings, more teacher autonomy, more productivity and more choices but got very few people to agree. The biggest irony is that I think that those changes would have improved performance and allowed for bigger salaries and a better work environment.
During the interview at the Sun Post I compared the challenges faced by Lakewood ($12,000 per year per student, excellent rating) with Cleveland Heights ( $17,000 per students and just one step above Clevelands performance. Is that where we are headed? $17,000 per student and schools in crisis?
Re: Election Results - But Wait There's More
Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 9:50 am
by Brian Pedaci
I wonder if the undervoting was more a result of people coming out to vote on the statewide issues and not having any opinion on schoolboard members so they don't even bother with those sections. I bet the undervotes on judicial races is similar.
Re: Election Results - But Wait There's More
Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 10:19 am
by Jim O'Bryan
Brian Pedaci wrote:I wonder if the undervoting was more a result of people coming out to vote on the statewide issues and not having any opinion on schoolboard members so they don't even bother with those sections. I bet the undervotes on judicial races is similar.
Brian
Certainly that has a lot to do with it.
Also a lot of talk on the street of only voting for candidates you back and know.
Instead of voting a slate, as many have in the past.
I know many that voted for one or two.
Interesting on how those that campaigned and reached out the least got the most votes.
FWIW
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Re: Election Results - But Wait There's More
Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 10:55 am
by Kristine Pagsuyoin
Re: Election Results - But Wait There's More
Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 9:22 pm
by Bill Call
Jim O'Bryan wrote:Brian Pedaci wrote:I wonder if the undervoting was more a result of people coming out to vote on the statewide issues and not having any opinion on schoolboard members so they don't even bother with those sections. I bet the undervotes on judicial races is similar.
Brian
Certainly that has a lot to do with it.
Also a lot of talk on the street of only voting for candidates you back and know.
Instead of voting a slate, as many have in the past.
I know many that voted for one or two.
Interesting on how those that campaigned and reached out the least got the most votes.
FWIW
.
Re: Election Results - But Wait There's More
Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2011 8:18 am
by Bill Call
Jim O'Bryan wrote:Brian Pedaci wrote:I wonder if the undervoting was more a result of people coming out to vote on the statewide issues and not having any opinion on schoolboard members so they don't even bother with those sections. I bet the undervotes on judicial races is similar.
Brian
Certainly that has a lot to do with it.
Also a lot of talk on the street of only voting for candidates you back and know.
Instead of voting a slate, as many have in the past.
I know many that voted for one or two.
Interesting on how those that campaigned and reached out the least got the most votes.
FWIW
.
This should have appeared by my computer froze up:
I didn't knock on one door, go to one block party or do any campaigning. That's one reason I came in last. People like to see the candidates they are voting for so if you want to be elected you need to knock on 1,000 doors. Advertising and posting on web sites only gets you so far. Of course you run the risk that if people actually see you they will be even less likely to vote for you.
Of course if you have the support of the Combine just being on the ballot is just enough.
Kristine and Woody worked hard and would have made great board members.
Re: Election Results - But Wait There's More
Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 1:02 pm
by Meg Ostrowski
The official results are in...anyone out there have them in a format for easier viewing that can be posted here?
http://boe.cuyahogacounty.us/