The Observation Deck

Hi Matt,

Thank you for clarifying for everyone how they can sign up to be a part of the Phase III Steering Committee. At the last Steering Committee everyone was invited to let others know in our community that the committee is not closed and that they still can participate in the process. However, we did not discuss that individuals were required to contact the superintendent’s office. If this is the case, then I know everyone involved on the committee will receive this information. It is so important in our community that everyone who wants to participate feel welcome.

Members of PALS (Parent & Community Advocates for Lakewood Students) received this information because part of our mission is to help keep parents stay informed about what goes on in the school district. As you may know, it was decided that the Phase III Steering Committee will be meeting over the summer. Therefore, PALS members were asked to “replyâ€

Dee Martinez wrote:What I am trying to get across is that, I can come up with five different "ideas" before I take my morning shower and I bet if I post them here I can get at least a couple of others to tell me its a great idea and we should go for it.
But there not all valid and there not all worth taking up taxpayer money chasing them.

My question remains, when all is said and done, of the five BOE members, the mayhor, and the 7 council members, is anyone taking this thing seriously? If they are not I will drop the subject. If they are I will work to defeat it.

I dont care about Westlake or signs.

I don't believe they can comment on it until the committee has vetted it and any other idea presented to us. Guess you'll have to wait until the process is complete and committee has done it's job

Jim O'Bryan wrote:I am being as honest as I know how.

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me too

Diane Helbig wrote:

Dee Martinez wrote:What I am trying to get across is that, I can come up with five different "ideas" before I take my morning shower and I bet if I post them here I can get at least a couple of others to tell me its a great idea and we should go for it.
But there not all valid and there not all worth taking up taxpayer money chasing them.

My question remains, when all is said and done, of the five BOE members, the mayhor, and the 7 council members, is anyone taking this thing seriously? If they are not I will drop the subject. If they are I will work to defeat it.

I dont care about Westlake or signs.

I don't believe they can comment on it until the committee has vetted it and any other idea presented to us. Guess you'll have to wait until the process is complete and committee has done it's job

I guess I will and I guess that kids and parents will twist in the wind until the process is finished. Ridiculous.

[quote="Kristine Pagsuyoin"]Members of PALS (Parent & Community Advocates for Lakewood Students) received this information because part of our mission is to help keep parents stay informed about what goes on in the school district. As you may know, it was decided that the Phase III Steering Committee will be meeting over the summer. Therefore, PALS members were asked to “replyâ€

Diane,

Thank you for all your hard work. Library Director Kenneth Warren called it when he said:

Kenneth Warren wrote:Ever since I had the opportunity to meet and interview Diane for an LO article on her run for council, she has impressed me with the inspirational powers of her first-rate intellect and her no-nonsense common-sense approach to problem solving.

So congratulations, and here's to Diane, one of the sharpest minds and most practically inspiring minds in the city.

I think we have a motivational star in our city. Time to celebrate Diane Helbig.

Matt

Matthew John Markling wrote:Diane,

Thank you for all your hard work. Library Director Kenneth Warren called it when he said:

Kenneth Warren wrote:Ever since I had the opportunity to meet and interview Diane for an LO article on her run for council, she has impressed me with the inspirational powers of her first-rate intellect and her no-nonsense common-sense approach to problem solving.

So congratulations, and here's to Diane, one of the sharpest minds and most practically inspiring minds in the city.

I think we have a motivational star in our city. Time to celebrate Diane Helbig.

Matt

Matt, thank you. This is very kind of you.

Jim O'Bryan wrote:... we almost lost the second vote which would have been a nightmare ...

Fact check time. The May 2007 Phase II bond issue passed with 67.69% yes votes.

Matthew John Markling wrote:

Jim O'Bryan wrote:... we almost lost the second vote which would have been a nightmare ...

Fact check time. The May 2007 Phase II bond issue passed with 67.69% yes votes.

Fact check time with 4 months to go before the vote the big panic was WILL IT PASS. Luckily a very good and very real case was made that one levy without the other would give us empty new schools. It was so tight at the time, the LO Board threw out their no political campaigning/backing rule to help push it through. It was one of the few things the LO Board has ever been unanimous on.

My point, was the first one was in pretty good times, or at least many did not see the economic nightmare on the horizon. It would seem much easier to lay it out and push it through. I will admit hindsight is 20/20, but, it seems a little disingenuous to allow anyone to think it is not a three vote program.

As Dee correctly points out, 7 years.

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Jim O'Bryan wrote:My point, was the first one was in pretty good times, or at least many did not see the economic nightmare on the horizon. It would seem much easier to lay it out and push it through. I will admit hindsight is 20/20, but, it seems a little disingenuous to allow anyone to think it is not a three vote program.

The March 2004 Phase I bond issue passed with 54.22% yes votes.

And whoever said this was not a three vote program? Does anyone think that?

Matt

Do a search for the rhetoric around the last vote. Or when we got the call
it was just fundraising, er I mean vote getting time.

Also I have no problem agreeing with much of Diane's post, she is smart, a mother, involved, and motivated.

I am just amused that for some world it has to happen in a vacuum, and while in that vacuum others cannot talk about it.

I mean if a doctor from the Cleveland Clinic finds the cure for cancer on bark, does he discount it because it did not come through a interoffice memo of cancer specialists? OR do they look at the idea and vet it? When his peers find out it is the formula for silly putty, he gets a little heat, if it is the cure he gets the Nobel Prize.


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Jim O'Bryan wrote:they look at the idea and vet it

... which is being done here ... much to the chagrin of some it appears ...

Matthew John Markling wrote:

Jim O'Bryan wrote:they look at the idea and vet it

... which is being done here ... much to the chagrin of some it appears ...

Matt

If it helps the process than good. But I am not sure how it derails the process as Dee says. You have always been honest and straight forward, so when you say the process is good, I take it for that, as well as others.

So is the discussion good or bad for the process?

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Jim,

Jim O'Bryan wrote:But I am not sure how it derails the process as Dee says.

It does not.

Jim O'Bryan wrote:You have always been honest and straight forward, so when you say the process is good, I take it for that, as well as others.

Thanks.

Jim O'Bryan wrote:So is the discussion good or bad for the process?

Discussion is good for the process.

Matt

Matthew John Markling wrote:Discussion is good for the process.

Matt

I am sure you also meant...

desired...

needed...

appreciated...

great...

As always Mr. Markling, thank you for wading into the Mosh Pit of Word Jazz we call the Observation Deck.

peace




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