Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 1:46 am
To step back, what can be accomplished by a dialogue, and what's it for?
Shawn, Bill, and others seem to assume a dialogue on race leads to "excuses and explanations for poor performance"---things they are not ready to accept.
Justine and others correctly point to the limits of dialogue. Certainly no dialogue can make a person a good parent or enforce good parenting. (I suspect good parenting is at the root of so many behavior problems. Until we pass a law requiring people to be good parents [impossible and unenforceable, of course], we will be stuck dealing with the effects of bad parenting.)
The ideas behind a dialogue are that it:
However, if Shawn is correct in equating "explanations" with "excuses"--
So I pose twin questions to the participants in this dialogue:
Shawn, Bill, and others seem to assume a dialogue on race leads to "excuses and explanations for poor performance"---things they are not ready to accept.
Justine and others correctly point to the limits of dialogue. Certainly no dialogue can make a person a good parent or enforce good parenting. (I suspect good parenting is at the root of so many behavior problems. Until we pass a law requiring people to be good parents [impossible and unenforceable, of course], we will be stuck dealing with the effects of bad parenting.)
The ideas behind a dialogue are that it:
- --invites people sitting out to participate; on the theory that...
--community problems are easier to solve when more people are engaged in working towards a solution.
- --helps me learn helpful clues towards a solution; on the theory that...
--I don't start the dialogue knowing everything.
However, if Shawn is correct in equating "explanations" with "excuses"--
...then it would follow that dialogue is counterproductive.No excuses, No explanations, just solutions. Reasoning is a wonderful skill until we use it to justify shortcomings. When I express concern about open forums and community discussions on topics like this, that is what I fear. Endorsing that it's okay to do poorly and encouraging complacency.
So I pose twin questions to the participants in this dialogue:
1. Is an explanation an excuse?
2. Do we all start the dialogue knowing everything?