LHA Tele-Town Hall meeting
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Jennifer Wolf
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LHA Tele-Town Hall meeting
http://www.cleveland.com/lakewood/index ... river_home
Does Lakewood no longer have enough space for town hall meetings?
I'm concerned there may not be enough band width (sorry I don't know what the appropriate technical term should be) for all interested parties to access the 'Tele-Town Hall' meeting.
Does Lakewood no longer have enough space for town hall meetings?
I'm concerned there may not be enough band width (sorry I don't know what the appropriate technical term should be) for all interested parties to access the 'Tele-Town Hall' meeting.
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Re: LHA Tele-Town Hall meeting
Jennifer Wolf wrote:http://www.cleveland.com/lakewood/index.ssf/2015/10/lakewood_hospital_association.html#incart_river_home
Does Lakewood no longer have enough space for town hall meetings?
I'm concerned there may not be enough band width (sorry I don't know what the appropriate technical term should be) for all interested parties to access the 'Tele-Town Hall' meeting.
Plenty of places for open meetings, and many are pretty inexpensive or free, but not as controllable.
One group is desperate to control the message, control the conversation, and thereby control the election.
No room for discussion or Democracy in Lakewood this month.
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Jim O'Bryan
Lakewood Resident
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If not, don't worry. Just forget about it."
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Lakewood Resident
"The very act of observing disturbs the system."
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If not, don't worry. Just forget about it."
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Brian Essi
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Re: LHA Tele-Town Hall meeting
Sock puppets of Summers and CCF.
Jones is not LHA, Jones is CCF.
LHA's sole function for the past 10 months has been to carry on political propaganda for CCF and Summers.
Jones is not LHA, Jones is CCF.
LHA's sole function for the past 10 months has been to carry on political propaganda for CCF and Summers.
David Anderson has no legitimate answers
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Michael Deneen
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Re: LHA Tele-Town Hall meeting
So they will call once with instructions, then another time later?
This sounds more like a kidnapper seeking ransom than a public meeting.
This sounds more like a kidnapper seeking ransom than a public meeting.
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tom monahan
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Re: LHA Tele-Town Hall meeting
Just got my advance call from Tom Gable, who identifies himself as the president of the Lakewood Hospital Association. He said nothing about being a trustee at the new Avon Hospital. He said Dr. Steve Jones and LHA trustee member, Rebecca Patton will be on the phone tomorrow to give us the facts on the hospital closing. You remember Rebecca Patton at the Community meeting held Sept. 21st. She's the one at the Sept 21st community forum where Dennis Kucinich spoke who questioned whether the people of Lakewood should have the right to vote on the hospital issue because they were not informed or educated enough on the issue and she did not like the way people voted.
And you will remember that Dr. Jones and the interim Lakewood Hospital president, Shannon Ritchie (soon to be Avon Hospital president) told us and the LHA Board of trustees that the state department of health (ODH) shutdown Lakewood Hospital's cardiac cath lab in January helping to precipitate further losses of patient revenue. It was Ritchie who sent a letter to ODH stating that he was shutting it down.
So this trio ought to be worth the evening's entertainment now that the Indians are out of the picture.
And you will remember that Dr. Jones and the interim Lakewood Hospital president, Shannon Ritchie (soon to be Avon Hospital president) told us and the LHA Board of trustees that the state department of health (ODH) shutdown Lakewood Hospital's cardiac cath lab in January helping to precipitate further losses of patient revenue. It was Ritchie who sent a letter to ODH stating that he was shutting it down.
So this trio ought to be worth the evening's entertainment now that the Indians are out of the picture.
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Kate McCarthy
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Re: LHA Tele-Town Hall meeting
I want to know where they got the phone list?
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Bridget Conant
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Re: LHA Tele-Town Hall meeting
Does anyone think this will have any success? First, it's SO limited - who has a landline anymore? Not like they did much to publicize it either - you tell the CCF mouthpiece PeeDee the day before? And who is going to willingly give their cell number to these people? Finally, if I get a robocall, I immediately hang up. Even if someone stayed on and listened, who wants to hassle with the call-in routine they presented?
Increasingly, these people seem so inept. This isn't an effective way to reach people. But I guess it's the only way they can handle - it's NOT open and they aren't out in public. Par for the course, I guess
Increasingly, these people seem so inept. This isn't an effective way to reach people. But I guess it's the only way they can handle - it's NOT open and they aren't out in public. Par for the course, I guess
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Dan Alaimo
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Re: LHA Tele-Town Hall meeting
FWIT: I've got two landlines (one the old 221 house number we've had forever and the other that I use for business; neither unlisted), and I haven't received the advance call on either. But I'm really not sure I care. It sounds like it will be a very carefully controlled message. It does show how flawed this process is.
“Never let a good crisis go to waste." - Winston Churchill (Quote later appropriated by Rahm Emanuel)
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Bridget Conant
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So who IS getting the calls? I suspect it's people who are already on board with the scam. Then they run to the PD and say "look how nicely this went! People understand we NEED to do this!"
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Amy Martin
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Re: LHA Tele-Town Hall meeting
Despite having a land line AND a listed phone number, we never got either call.
HOW MUCH MORE BULLSHIT CAN WE TAKE FROM CITY HALL?
HOW MUCH MORE BULLSHIT CAN WE TAKE FROM CITY HALL?
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Bridget Conant
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Seriously, WHO got calls? Wanna bet it was known supporters?
Talking to the choir!
Talking to the choir!
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Re: LHA Tele-Town Hall meeting
Amy Martin wrote:Despite having a land line AND a listed phone number, we never got either call.
HOW MUCH MORE BULLSHIT CAN WE TAKE FROM CITY HALL?
Considering we the tax payers have lost over $1 million on studies and crisis management I am expecting a little more for our money.
OR, we should look at how that money was misspent.
It is pretty amazing thinking we pay top dollar for, "avoid real talk, real conversation and by all means mislead, attack the messenger, hardly ever the message.
We need crisis management to spin the crisis management.
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Jim O'Bryan
Lakewood Resident
"The very act of observing disturbs the system."
Werner Heisenberg
"If anything I've said seems useful to you, I'm glad.
If not, don't worry. Just forget about it."
His Holiness The Dalai Lama
Lakewood Resident
"The very act of observing disturbs the system."
Werner Heisenberg
"If anything I've said seems useful to you, I'm glad.
If not, don't worry. Just forget about it."
His Holiness The Dalai Lama
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Phil Florian
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Re: LHA Tele-Town Hall meeting
So did anyone call in from the LO? I only was able to check in the last 15 minutes or so. Heard one nurse in the Pro-take down the hospital camp and one asking will she still have a job since CCF said they would help find jobs for everyone last time CCF did a closing and in reality they didn't. Heard a question about babies being born at the new facility. That was about it. Anyone catch the rest?
"Possible explanations for why other people might not share our views:
They haven't been told the truth.
They are too lazy or stupid to reach correct...conclusions, or
They are biased by their self-interest, dogma, or ideology."
- Matt Motyl
They haven't been told the truth.
They are too lazy or stupid to reach correct...conclusions, or
They are biased by their self-interest, dogma, or ideology."
- Matt Motyl
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Amanda Tabor
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Re: LHA Tele-Town Hall meeting
This is so absurd I cant even....
I didn't see this until now, so I missed the whole thing. Way to go letting residents know how to participate Lakewood, good job! And what year are we living in when a CONFERENCE CALL is seen as the most effective way to get participation from people? Though if the point is not participation but simply another method of telling people what you want them to hear I guess it's effective enough.
I'd love to hear what actually happened from anyone who was able to join the call.
I didn't see this until now, so I missed the whole thing. Way to go letting residents know how to participate Lakewood, good job! And what year are we living in when a CONFERENCE CALL is seen as the most effective way to get participation from people? Though if the point is not participation but simply another method of telling people what you want them to hear I guess it's effective enough.
I'd love to hear what actually happened from anyone who was able to join the call.
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Peter Grossetti
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Re: LHA Tele-Town Hall meeting
Phil Florian wrote:So did anyone call in from the LO?
Phil - I'd love to know what you mean by "from the LO?"
My understanding of what the Lakewood Observer is is: anyone who wants who write or submit a story. We ALL comprise "The Lakewood Observer." Citizen journalism at its best.
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