Scott Brown wins

[Stephen Eisel]

http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/01/19/ ... tml?hpt=T1


This is huge... A clear message has been sent to Congress and the Whitehouse.. The Tea Party is for real...

[dl meckes]

How is this about Lakewood?

[Stephen Eisel]

How is this about Lakewood?

dl... do not let the little things in life get you upset.. please move this thread to the Global area...

[Jim O'Bryan]

How is this about Lakewood?

dl... do not let the little things in life get you upset.. please move this thread to the Global area...

While I agree with DL has little to do with Lakewood, with the single exception that Scott
is a candidate that has morphed from Republican to Independent to Tea Party Guy, and
that would seem to be where so many Republicans have headed. Easier to call themselves
Independents that take any responsibility or assign and responsibility for GWB. A person
that has always been a Republican, claims to be an Indpependent because he only votes
with the Rs 97% of the time.

It is an huge upset, and should be noted.

Another thing to be noted

Tom Ganley, candidate for US Senate will be speaking at the LRO's monthly meeting on January 26th. The meeting is at the Main Auditorium of City Hall and begins at 7:00pm. All are welcome to attend. Call me at 216.288.9163 with any questions or if you need a ride.

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[Jim DeVito]

What is the "Tea Party" and how is it real now as apposed to before last night? I am serious. When I hear "Tea Party" I think of a bunch of right wing nut jobs who don't want to pay taxes. So the question I pose to the "Tea Partyers" is this. What is the end goal of the movement?

As an aside if Scott brown got elected by thrashing the health care bill by saying it was forced on the american people and we can afford it. (I am assuming that is the stance of the tea paryters, since his win somehow signifies the movement is now real.) How is he going to handle the Iraq war that was forced on american? Or is that ok because we are not paying any taxes to support it?

[Jim O'Bryan]

What is the "Tea Party" and how is it real now as apposed to before last night? I am serious. When I hear "Tea Party" I think of a bunch of right wing nut jobs who don't want to pay taxes. So the question I pose to the "Tea Partyers" is this. What is the end goal of the movement?

As an aside if Scott brown got elected by thrashing the health care bill by saying it was forced on the american people and we can afford it. (I am assuming that is the stance of the tea paryters, since his win somehow signifies the movement is now real.) How is he going to handle the Iraq war that was forced on american? Or is that ok because we are not paying any taxes to support it?

Jim

You have to look through the smoke and mirrors. Of course you are better prepared than most
as you live in Lakewood where people change names faster than underwear. The Tea Party
would be extreme right Rs, that have gone so far right they can align with the far left on some things.
Throw in a few Libertarians, and some slogans and bam! you got the Tea Party.

Then add 40% of the Neue Independents, which would those Rs that got tired of defending
GWB after he left office, and no longer want to take responsibility or explain the worse
president of all time, and you have the Neue Independent Tea Party.

As for the health care, it turns out that Massachusetts actually has better health care then
what has been watered down in the Senate, so they said no thank you.

There is certainly a ever growing malaise in the USA that started with GWB's first election
and has grown and grown. I believe many would have spoken up during the GWB days
but because they align themselves closer to Rs than Ds, guns, welfare, education etc. They
have waited to speak up because we have a black President that is not cleaning the mess
up fast enough for them. I would say 60% are the ones that repeatedly said for 8 years,
"You are un-American for not backing the president 100%, 100% of the time."

The beautiful thing about America, room for all.

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[Charlie Page]

Rule 5: "Ridicule is man's most potent weapon." There is no defense. It's irrational. It's infuriating. It also works as a key pressure point to force the enemy into concessions.

Liberals have gotten quite good at this. I bet you could do this in your sleep.

[Stephen Eisel]

This was not the first thread started in the Lakewood General Discussion that was off topic. I feel so special I love the pettiness of some people..

[Stephen Eisel]

What is the "Tea Party" and how is it real now as apposed to before last night? I am serious. When I hear "Tea Party" I think of a bunch of right wing nut jobs who don't want to pay taxes. So the question I pose to the "Tea Partyers" is this. What is the end goal of the movement?

As an aside if Scott brown got elected by thrashing the health care bill by saying it was forced on the american people and we can afford it. (I am assuming that is the stance of the tea paryters, since his win somehow signifies the movement is now real.) How is he going to handle the Iraq war that was forced on american? Or is that ok because we are not paying any taxes to support it?

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[Jim O'Bryan]

This was not the first thread started in the Lakewood General Discussion that was off topic. I feel so special I love the pettiness of some people..

Stephen

Not pettiness, just trying to keep things straight.

We really should be tougher on thread drift as well.

Had you started with, Scott Brown won, a person like Tea Party person Tom Ganley
who is coming to Lakewood...

But where was the connect, even you mentioned it being in the wrong place.

This morning I moved it.

Charlie

You seem pretty good at the snipping yourself.
Dying to find out where rule number 5 came from.

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[Stephen Eisel]

Pre ban, she was very selective in her enforcement. She is hata and I am fine with that.

[Jim O'Bryan]

Pre ban, she was very selective in her enforcement. She is hata and I am fine with that.

Stephen

You pick the damndest times to live in the past.

I woke up this morning, saw the thread and your messages, so I moved it.

We have had three different people managing the board, and many more helping.

We all try to do our share.

Not sure you can blame anyone but me for any of this.

Buck always stops here my friend.

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[Stephen Eisel]

Pre ban, she was very selective in her enforcement. She is hata and I am fine with that.

Stephen

You pick the damndest times to live in the past.

I woke up this morning, saw the thread and your messages, so I moved it.

We have had three different people managing the board, and many more helping.

We all try to do our share.

Not sure you can blame anyone but me for any of this.

Buck always stops here my friend.

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Let us be clear... The key word was pre-ban... I did not say that DL moved this thread.. Thanks...

[ryan costa]

Massachusetts Dems chose poorly. they should have nominated someone resembling Ohio's Bill O'Neill.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_O% ... hio_jurist)

There are more important issues than healthcare reform.

America needs to dissolve NATO, leave the WTO, dissolve NAFTA and CAFTA, decriminalize marijuana, erase No Child Left Behind, and renounce Reaganomics. it shouldn't take more than 20 minutes a vote. Congress can do it all tomorrow. It is easier to end laws than to make them: you just gotta list the title of the law to be erased, and vote on it.

[Charlie Page]

Charlie

You seem pretty good at the snipping yourself.
Dying to find out where rule number 5 came from.

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Reactionary snipping. Rule 5? Look in your brief case....Rules for Radicals.