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Brian Mooney
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Dan-- I am a lifelong Democratic activist, and that is why I am a member of the Lakewood Democratic Club. Secondly, several club members spoke to me today. It appears I was mistaken when I stated the club did two mailings in the past. They have always done one mailing. Which is exactly what they did for you this election--they paid for one mailing for your benefit. Usually the mailing, is done in the General Election. A few election cycles ago you lost in the Primary --and this election you wanted the piece to go out in the Primary, which it did....unfortunately you came in last place among the Democratic candidates...a distant fourth place. Now you complain the Club will not do something that it has never done before. You want it to spend money it does not have to mail out a second ballot for you. The CLUB has done in this election exactly what it has done in every other election...it mailed out one sample ballot...and it did so in the primary, at your direction...Stop trying to play the victim, create conspiracies where they don't exist or whine how current elected officials won't talk to you... Man up for god sakes...Now I feel bad that you came in fourth and have to play catch-up now...Why don't you consult a mirror and ask it "Whose fault is it I came in fourth?" open your eyes, that would be your fault, Dan... " And Dan, you stated "I think Democrats should endorse and fight for endorsed Democrats". The Democratic party endorsed four people for this race, even though there are only three spots. I know you want to be on Council, and this is your fourth stab at it, and it isn't going very well for you, but stop blogging and hit the streets...Lakewood political history is replete with politicians who did very poorly in elections and then won through hard work.... Skindell got only about 5% of the vote the first time he ran for state rep, Flannery didn't win the first time out for mayor or state rep either, and Ed FitzGerald had to lose a race to Skindell before he beat George for Mayor...Maybe you will be the next success story...
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Brian as Fitzes assistant I'm pegging you as a mouthpiece. I was wondering why a self-described lifelong dem was someone I didn't know. I've been around the scene a lot.

I also see that you are attempting to sell a house in Rocky River? Is that true? Are you a River resident? That would make you a non-voting member of the Lakewood dems club.

Let's see now, we've got two people speaking for Monique, and you speaking for Ed. Can't any of them speak for themselves? Ed used to, now he's probably too big of a local board.
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Meg Ostrowski
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I had heard a play by play account of the LDC meeting in June and was under the impression that they were endorsing Moniquie, Nickie & Dan for council. When I check the LDC website these are the only Council candidates listed.
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That is Tom Bullock's doing. I'm sick of him and his chicanery.
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For a Club that charges a mere $10 for dues with a reduced $5 dues fee to seniors and students, I think a FREE targeted mailer for the endorsed candidates was MORE than generous. The cost to the Club was over $2000.
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Jeni - You are one of the dems that I have always liked and respected.
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I'm the renegade with a big mouth. What's up?
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Just clean livin' Sharon...just clean livin'! :D Thanks for the kind words.
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Brian,

I am by no means a Democrat or a Republican. I don’t get into all that party garbage, and after looking at this thread it makes me glad. However I will say that I think you a greatly mistaken that Dan has not been working hard enough. Out of all the candidates out there for this election he is only one of 2 that I have seen and spoken to. My question is where is everyone else? Why haven’t they come around to mine, or any one else I know’s house? If they are working so much harder how come no one I have talked to has heard from them? I think Dan is trying harder then most people in this election but that the other candidates just have a little more help then anyone is giving him. Also I think the other candidates maybe a little to cocky in thinking that they are just going to walk across the finish line. With so few people showing up at the primary there is still a lot of wiggle room in the general. You never know what’s going to happen.
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I have to agree Chrisopher.

In this local election I can honestly say I am neither Democrat or Republican. It is more about response and issues and diversity. And I have to agree. I have asked questions of Dan and Jared and they both have responded very quickly. I am looking forward to the League of Women's voters debate at the end of the month. I hope it still takes place and those running attend. If not I will have to go with the information I currently have to make a decision which I think is one of the biggest that Lakewood has had to make in a long time.
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They paved paradise
And put up a parking lot"
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Jim O'Bryan
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Re: Political Attacks

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Jeni Matousek wrote:For a Club that charges a mere $10 for dues with a reduced $5 dues fee to seniors and students, I think a FREE targeted mailer for the endorsed candidates was MORE than generous. The cost to the Club was over $2000.


Jeni

I think I can save you thousands on your next mailing.

It seems more than fair. The only reason I mentioned it was that I had not received any
piece from the Lakewood Dems, but many from Friends of FitzGerald. I thought that
maybe Dan had been lost in the shuffle.

I must also underline that while Jennifer Scott throws some fabulous parties, you have
thrown some great events for the Democrats. How funny the two party masters for the
two political parties are both Jens!

Sharon

Brian is rehabbing a house on McKinley I believe. When I first had the pleasure to meet
Brian, the first thing I asked was "Where do you live." At the time he was living in Rocky
River but mentioned that the mayor had asked him to move, which he did. I give the mayor
credit for asking that, and applaud Brian for following through and getting involved.

Brian

"Man up..."

Wow.

All the rest,
I too wonder why so much silence from those asking for support. Say what
you will about door knocking, there is no better or faster way to reach out to many
for FREE, than the Lakewood Observer and the Deck, 4th year in a row for Lakewood's
most accessed website*

*According to the outside auditing company Plekstats.


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Dan Shields
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Re: Political Attacks

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Brian Mooney wrote:Dan-- I am a lifelong Democratic activist, and that is why I am a member of the Lakewood Democratic Club.


Brian -
You might be a 'lifelong Democratic activist', but not in Lakewood. I think I've seen you at two, maybe three Club meetings. I don't know you, and if you just moved into town good luck. So I find it odd that I answer a direct question here on the 'Deck (as I've done many times), and I get a lengthy attack piece from you. You don't know me, you've not been involved in this city, so it looks like someone is feeding you your information, and you're coming at me like a bad impression of a political heavy.

Jim O'Bryan wrote:When I first had the pleasure to meet
Brian, the first thing I asked was "Where do you live." At the time he was living in Rocky
River but mentioned that the mayor had asked him to move, which he did.


Well, well. One of the first things you'll learn about Lakewood, if you stay, is that it's a big small town. People know each other, and they know about each other. So in short order I see that you are Ed Fitzgerald's assistant. In the past, I have supported Ed, but also have criticized him when I thought it warranted. Whether or not that is the issue, he has refused to speak to me in any way for years now. But here you come with your scathing comments about my candidacy, and past candidacies, and how I'm campaigning, and on and on. (By the way, I am proud to say that my independent streak has probably cost me support here. We need more independents in this town). Are you sure you covered everything? Are you sure you don't want to go as far back as law school, or college? In any event...

My post was not about the Club mailing, although if you were paying attention you know that at my urging and based on my vote, the Club will now send out the mailings earlier, when Absentee voting starts. I was responding to a direct, albeit difficult question, from Jim O'Bryan about why the Mayor was involved with his own series of mailings. You chose to parrot back whatever information you've been given, by whomever.

So in response to you, Brian, let me say this:

The way I was raised -

A real man speaks for himself when he has a problem with someone, whether personal or professional; he doesn't rely on someone else to do his dirty work for him;
A real man doesn't do the dirty work for someone else;
A real man takes a stand and is prepared to defend that stance, right or wrong, publicly.

I have always been straightforward and available, whether online or in person. I've got a record of 'activism' that you can only dream of. People know me and they know what I stand for. So if you want to move here, that's fine, but I would suggest in the future that that if you or any of your cohorts, including the Mayor, have something to say to me, for God's sake man up and say it to me personally, and preferably in person.

As for you, don't even bother to respond, I don't care to quibble with a lackey.

Is that man enough for you?


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Jeni Matousek wrote:For a Club that charges a mere $10 for dues with a reduced $5 dues fee to seniors and students, I think a FREE targeted mailer for the endorsed candidates was MORE than generous. The cost to the Club was over $2000.


Jeni - The Club was not doing me any favors; nor being generous. I earned the right to be on the mailer, as did the other endorsed dems, through years of hard work for my party and my club.
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Re: Political Attacks

Post by Brian Mooney »

well, for one

I do not now and have never lived in Rocky River...there are at least three or more Brian Mooney's that live in this county, and one who writes for the Boston Globe. I never told Jim O'Brien or anyone I lived in River and I never have...I did buy a home last year on McKinley and moved back into lakewood, the city my grandparents raised my mother and her sisters in, and where I was born and have lived --but no , i have not spent my entire life here. I am nobody special politically, just an active Democat and i have been active in many different campaigns in the past 20 years in Lakewood and elsewhere

I do not work for the City of Lakewood, although I did part time for 10 months or so in the past. And yes, I am friends with many politicians, but I only speak for myself.

Sharon, I know who you are and have met you, but there are 50,000 people in lakewood, i'm sure you don't know all of them.

What sparked me was Shields twisting and skewing the truth and attacking the Democratic Club. I think the candidates should campaign positively for themselves and not blame the Democratic Club, the Democratic party, other elected officials for their problems. That type of mudslinging does is irritating. I will admit my posts were a little strong. I read so many negative posts on this site and felt the need to respond to some real whoppers from Shields.

But enough of this, i just want candidates to stop lying, stop spreading false stories, and talk about what positive things they want to do for lakewood.

and I look forward to the next democratic club meeting to some face to face conversation..

Brian
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Brian -

I may have met you but I don't remember you, hmmm.

You won't meet me at the dems club for a while. I will not be subject to the egomaniacal rantings of the present pres who thinks because he has the microphone he can ramble on and on, teaching things he doesn't know, ridiculous.

So if you want to meet, I will meet for coffee, drop me a pm.

In addition, you know things that you couldn't know about Dan. Someone is feeding you info. Don't you think that maybe we know the game here? Some of us aren't fooled or easily manipulated by people whose egoes are so large they have to turn sideways to get into the room. I've said these things face to face with the ones who do this.

Dan -

It's person up now, not man up. A real adult, not just a real man. You know that, you've seen it live hun.
"When I dare to be powerful -- to use my strength in the service of my vision, then it becomes less and less important whether I am afraid." - Audre Lorde
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