Remind me, I forgot

[Justine Cooper]

Charlie,
I don't disagree that Saddam was a monster and his sons were worse, but there should have been ways to stop him years before, with other nations.

The sad truth is that we gave him money for arms, we gave Bin money for arms, and we did a lot of things that were mistakes that led up to the monster he became. He should have been captured when we went to Kuwait.

Ivor is right, war is not the answer to problems that there could have been other answers to it. How is working out? Who is really better off now?

I am watching the Saddam House series and waiting for three and four. It is very interesting. And I just taped Charlie Wilson's war so thanks.

[Jim O'Bryan]

edit: Who brought it up?

Stephen

I do not see where I made this a R/D argument. When I speak of Eisehhower, Johnson, Nixon, etc, they are not Rs and Ds. They are merely CEOs.

Again, Johnson certainly has the blood of 30,000 Americans on his hands. But it was Nixon and why the war was extended that should bother all of us as Americans. It was the infamouse Christmas Day Bombings that should have had many in jail. It was the unauthorized war in Cambodia and Laos that should have been prosecuted along with Watergate.

These are not R and D issues but American issues.

FWIW


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[ryan costa]

if wikipedia is to be believed, even general MacArthur advised U.S. Presidents to not get too involved with Viet Nam.

Saddam Hussein at least went through the motions of imprisoning his worst son, Uday. that is more than we can say for Neil Bush.

[Justine Cooper]

I only came on the global to see if anyone else was as excited by the Inauguration energy and regret even reading the posts. It isn't even about the R's and D's anymore and we have a president modeling that. It is just disheartening to try to find something positive here and just read more of the same negative and it gets actually maddening when we are reading about other people doing all this stuff in the community and trying to be a piece of the new era where all must stand to do change.

I would rather be there now so you go ahead and defend guns and war and tell people to get over it cuz Bush is gone, even though his destruction and war and devastation live far longer than his presidency. We all have place.

Peace out.

[Bill Call]

When you voted for Obama did you vote for war against Pakistan?

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Worl ... 031523.cms

http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2007 ... bama_N.htm

[Charlie Page]

The sad truth is that we gave him money for arms, we gave Bin money for arms, and we did a lot of things that were mistakes that led up to the monster he became. He should have been captured when we went to Kuwait.

That goes back to the saying, “the enemies of our enemies are not our friendsâ€

[Valerie Molinski]

When you voted for Obama did you vote for war against Pakistan?

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Worl ... 031523.cms

http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2007 ... bama_N.htm

Do you even read the links you post? The stories at each link are exactly the same. And if you had read the article, you would know that we are not fighting against Pakistan. The missle strikes were at Al Qaeda strongholds. That has been going on a while with the approval of the Pakistani govt. The reason they are asking us to stop this time is that the last attack killed civilians along with the 7 AQ operatives that died in the attack. The attack was done by unmanned drones as well and apparently some of these ordered strikes concern Pakistan that they are not as targeted as they should be.

Pakistan is not our friend. They never were and never will be. They comply with the US as much as they can out of fear of both the US and apprisals from some of the militant groups within their own borders. They are walking a fine line. I've no idea where you would get that we are drumming up a war with Pakistan from either of those stories. Ridiculous.

[Jim O'Bryan]

saddam was a sick sadistic bastard way before the US ever gave him anything.

so then why did we give him things?

This is what I am saying, we must hold these people accountable.

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[Justine Cooper]

I also agree he was a sick murderer BEFORE we gave him anything, which makes it far, far worse that we gave him money for arms to try to help our own cause, knowing how sick and evil he was. All of it is a sad tragedy that did not have to play out like it did, and still is, with people, our young and older military human beings, and all the civilians, children and all, dying still in this war. There are real huame reasons that much of the entire world (whom cannot be discounted) and finally many in this country protest the war and the way in which our country has conducted business. With so many lies and deception from our own government, it is beyond unfair that our whole country will continue to pay the price for a handful with their own agenda.

[Stephen Eisel]

Stephen

Innocent people died in Vietnam!

Are you speaking of the US soldiers?

How many and why?

Are you speaking of the Vietnamese, Laotians, Cambodians?

How many and why?

Let's not gloss this over, that is a crime.

Why were we there?

It is nice that you select LBJs term, but who started it?

More to the point, which president has the most blood on his hands from the Vietnam War?

Who put half the names on the Vietnam War Memorial, strictly to get elected and re-elected.

LBJ although flawed, at least stepped down in an effort to stop the war.

Your answer is an insult to every soldier that fought in Vietnam. I lost friends there and they will not have died in vain if I have anything to say about it.

This is the problem with revisionist history lessons.

So you really believe we killed no civilians on purpose?

Robert McNamara has a slightly different take on that comment.

You sure?

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Do you have a Co2 detector in your house?