Biden cannot walk a mile in Sarah's shoes

Stephen Eisel · Post by **Stephen Eisel** » Sat Oct 25, 2008 6:58 pm

Biden so disliked West's line of questioning that the Obama campaign canceled a WFTV interview with Jill Biden, the candidate's wife.

"This cancellation is non-negotiable, and further opportunities for your station to interview with this campaign are unlikely, at best for the duration of the remaining days until the election," wrote Laura K. McGinnis, Central Florida communications director for the Obama campaign.

Stephen Eisel · Post by **Stephen Eisel** » Sat Oct 25, 2008 7:01 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQXcImQfubM

Stephen Eisel · Post by **Stephen Eisel** » Sat Oct 25, 2008 7:04 pm

The Bush tax cuts... How evil...

http://www.nytimes.com/imagepages/2006/ ... chart.html

Brian Pedaci · Post by **Brian Pedaci** » Sat Oct 25, 2008 7:47 pm

I think if that interviewer wanted to ask 'hard questions', she did a pretty poor job of it. Biden was able to swat them away without much trouble. Throwing out a Karl Marx quote and asking Biden whether or not that means that Obama wants to turn the USA into Sweden? It's a ludicrous question just on the face of it, and Biden was right to laugh in her face.

To expect they'd put Jill Biden up there to answer the same line of questioning is silly. Nobody would expect Cindy McCain to do an interview with Keith Olbermann, so this shouldn't be news either.\

By the way, Biden wouldn't be able to walk a mile in Palin's shoes because he hasn't learned how to walk in three-inch pumps. No shame there.

Bill Call · Post by **Bill Call** » Sun Oct 26, 2008 6:25 am

Brian Pedaci wrote: Throwing out a Karl Marx quote and asking Biden whether or not that means that Obama wants to turn the USA into Sweden? It's a ludicrous question just on the face of it, and Biden was right to laugh in her face.

It is not a ludicrous question when Obama himself said that he "sought out Marxists" when he attending college. It is not a ludicrous question when Obama was a member of the New Party and welcomes their endorsement.

http://www.newparty.org/

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/grou ... grpid=7434

http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Polit ... iples.html

If John McCain sought out Nazi's, admired George Lincoln Rockwell and was a member of the New Nazi Party would you say "Are you a Nazi" was a ludicrous question?

The media are so totally in the tank for Obama that they refuse to ask questions about his policies and beliefs and campaign.

He has promised to "remake the world". Really? In whose image and to what purpose? It's too ludicrous to even ask.

Marxism is one of the worlds most murderous ideologies, responsible for the deaths of hundreds of millions of people. Why is he attracted to that ideology? It's too ludicrous to even ask.

His campaign will raise and spend over $650 million dollars, much of it supplied by secret overseas donors. Who owns Barack Obama? It's too ludicrous too even ask.

Brian, we live in two different countries. My country honors those who serve in the American military, yours honors those who build bombs to be planted at USO dances.

Phil Florian · Post by **Phil Florian** » Sun Oct 26, 2008 8:25 am

Bill Call wrote:My country honors those who serve in the American military, yours honors those who build bombs to be planted at USO dances.

This the very thing that typifies the McCain campaign and it is going to haunt whatever candidate wins the election. George Bush started this cultural divide even as he tried to say he was a "uniter and not a divider" and now McCain smiles at the boos and "kill him!" lines that his own party faithful yell out. Sure he tried to tamp this down when the media made a point of reminding him that encouraging a mob to violence is not such a good idea but seriously look at his face as he smiles proudly as he works to drive a wedge between one party and the other. He is somewhat drunk with desperation and adoration and I don't really think he sees the bigger problem with this.

Bill Call, you used to be a pointed and yet reasonable poster on the L.O. who was a money watchdog and one who pointed out excesses in local and regional government. I never read a thing from you that would make me think that you would post something like the above but clearly SOMETHING has happened to you in recent times.

But seriously Bill and don't take this in the wrong way but that was a sick thing to say and you need help if you really believe that of a neighbor, let alone any other reasonable citizen of the country. I would never have thought you would buy into that "real America" crap that the Right is pushing. It is a cancer and you clearly have it so get help before it tears you up. It is one thing to poke fun at one another throughout this election cycle. It is quite another to think that half of this country is praying for more terrorist attacks and the death our American soldiers. If this isn't mental illness talking then for shame for saying such a thing. I really would expect more from you.

Bill Call · Post by **Bill Call** » Sun Oct 26, 2008 9:15 am

Phil Florian wrote:But seriously Bill and don't take this in the wrong way but that was a sick thing to say and you need help if you really believe that of a neighbor, let alone any other reasonable citizen of the country.

There is nothing funny about setting off bombs at USO clubs.
There is nothing funny about the New Party.
There is nothing funny about admiration of Marxism.
There is nothing funny about a compliant media acting more and more like Pravda West.
There is nothing funny about Barack Obama's friendship with terrorists and Jew haters.
There is nothing funny about a one party state dominated by its most extreme elements.
There is nothing funny about a megalomaniac who thinks "there is a divine wind" at his back that will give him the power to "change the world".

It took ten minutes for Obama's thugocracy to illegally gain access to various government files of Joe The Plumber. When the Great One gains access to all the powers of the federal government will you still be laughing?

I'll ask again: If John McCain had expressed an admiration for Nazism and had Nazi campaign advisors and friends would you laugh it off?

A new Rassmussen poll shows 25% of liberals admire Bill Ayers. If a poll showed 25% of conservatives admired Timothy Mcveigh would you laugh it off?

Stephen Eisel · Post by **Stephen Eisel** » Sun Oct 26, 2008 9:47 am

The media are so totally in the tank for Obama that they refuse to ask questions about his policies and beliefs and campaign.

I would love to see an uprising against the media in this country... non-violent of course...

Jim DeVito · Post by **Jim DeVito** » Sun Oct 26, 2008 9:50 am

Stephen Eisel wrote:
The media are so totally in the tank for Obama that they refuse to ask questions about his policies and beliefs and campaign.
I would love to see an uprising against the media in this country... non-violent of course...

Turn off the TV. Works for me ;-)

Jim DeVito · Post by **Jim DeVito** » Sun Oct 26, 2008 9:52 am

Marxism is one of the worlds most murderous ideologies, responsible for the deaths of hundreds of millions of people. Why is he attracted to that ideology? It's too ludicrous to even ask.

One could say the same about Christianity. Can we say Crusades?

Stephen Eisel · Post by **Stephen Eisel** » Sun Oct 26, 2008 9:55 am

George Bush started this cultural divide

Bush started the cultural divide... proof!!!!! :wink:

Jim DeVito · Post by **Jim DeVito** » Sun Oct 26, 2008 9:57 am

Bill, What are you so afraid of? Please give me one example of what will happen if Obama gets elected.

I will start. I am afraid that if Mccain gets elected we will continue to ignore science and hedge our future on the drill baby drill mantra.

Stephen Eisel · Post by **Stephen Eisel** » Sun Oct 26, 2008 9:57 am

Biden was able to swat them away without much trouble.

Hey Kool-Aid!!!! And these guy want to sit dow with Ahmadinejad... We are in trouble...

Brian Pedaci · Post by **Brian Pedaci** » Sun Oct 26, 2008 10:00 am

Bill Call wrote:Brian, we live in two different countries. My country honors those who serve in the American military, yours honors those who build bombs to be planted at USO dances.

No, Bill, we live in the same country. One that has some significant contradictions. And that's the difference in rhetoric between the two parties this season - one wants to keep talking about 'us' vs. 'them' and the other wants to talk about how we come together as one. That's why people have been overlooking some of the troubling aspects of Mr. Obama's past - because they believe that he's more likely to point the way to a better tomorrow.

But your post illuminates precisely what I was talking about. Rather than present facts and make a somewhat logical argument, culminating in the conclusion that Obama must be a Marxist, the interviewer went right from 'spread the wealth' (which is exactly what the progressive tax structure does already, doesn't it?) to "turn the USA into a Marxist country like Sweden". It was a ridiculous way to frame the question, and a ridiculously easy one for Biden to dismiss. I suspect you would be a much tougher interview for Mr. Biden than that woman was.

The Rasmussen poll you mentioned showed that among those who identify themselves as liberals, 25% had an overall favorable view of Mr. Ayers. That's not saying they 'honor' him. That means that 78% of LIBERALS have an 'unfavorable' opinion of Ayers. For what it's worth, *I* have an unfavorable opinion of Ayers personally. I've read all the purported links (Ayers babysitted for Obama, Obama wrote a blurb for Ayers' book, even that Ayers ghostwrote Dreams From My Father, etc etc) and it doesn't convince me. Yes - its apparent that Obama got his political beginnings amongst some pretty radical thinkers. But as I look at who the man is today, and I read all that he's written and said - I'm going to take him at more or less face value on what he's planning on doing as President. Hell, I was interested in radical politics when I was a young man and I'm a fairly conservative Democrat with libertarian leanings today.

By the way, only 28% of ALL voters feel the McCain campaign has been helped by focussing on this issue.

Bill, you're in the unenviable position that many on the left were in 2000 and 2004. You're going to have to find a way to deal with your anger and frustration, and give the guy the benefit of the doubt for a couple of months into the new administration. I hope you'll be better satisfied than we were.

Jim DeVito · Post by **Jim DeVito** » Sun Oct 26, 2008 10:01 am

Stephen Eisel wrote:
Biden was able to swat them away without much trouble.
Hey Kool-Aid!!!! And these guy want to sit dow with Ahmadinejad... We are in trouble...

How do you propose we deal with Ahmadinejad? Eight more years of not talking to him. That has worked out real well. :roll:

Or should we just call it a day bomb him into the ground, fly a mission accomplished banner, and declare ourselves liberators. Oh wait that also work out real well. :roll: