Bush Administration lied to America 935 times to invade Iraq

[sharon kinsella]

Joe -

That's funny!

[Valerie Molinski]

This isnt new news. They had been all making the rounds on the tv shows (rummy, condi, and cheney) citing 'sources' when in fact, they were their own sources. They were citing each other and beating the war drum the whole time. They suck. This was such a horrible perpetuation of lies and mistruths and it makes me sick every time I think about it.

And to be fair about Colin Powell, he really felt hoodwinked and misled about the whole thing. The big reason he left the administration is that he felt he was lied to and steamrolled into supporting this and I think he is embarassed by his role in assigning credibility to all of this 'cooked intel.' But he is a good soldier and does what he is told and wont talk about it later, even if he thinks it was wrong.

[Jim DeVito]

This isnt new news. They had been all making the rounds on the tv shows (rummy, condi, and cheney) citing 'sources' when in fact, they were their own sources. They were citing each other and beating the war drum the whole time. They suck. This was such a horrible perpetuation of lies and mistruths and it makes me sick every time I think about it.

Pretty much sums it up.

[Stephen Eisel]

This isnt new news. They had been all making the rounds on the tv shows (rummy, condi, and cheney) citing 'sources' when in fact, they were their own sources. They were citing each other and beating the war drum the whole time. They suck. This was such a horrible perpetuation of lies and mistruths and it makes me sick every time I think about it.

And to be fair about Colin Powell, he really felt hoodwinked and misled about the whole thing. The big reason he left the administration is that he felt he was lied to and steamrolled into supporting this and I think he is embarassed by his role in assigning credibility to all of this 'cooked intel.' But he is a good soldier and does what he is told and wont talk about it later, even if he thinks it was wrong.

Bush was not the first American president to take action against Iraq because of the WMD issue.
The UN Security Council also believed that Iraq was a threat and unanimously passed Resolution 1441 on November 8, 2002, offering Iraq a final opportunity to comply with its disarmament obligations. So between the years 1998 and 2002, when, where and how did Iraq dispose of those WMD's?

You cannot ignore history.

CLINTON: Good evening.

Earlier today, I ordered America's armed forces to strike military and security targets in Iraq. They are joined by British forces. Their mission is to attack Iraq's nuclear, chemical and biological weapons programs and its military capacity to threaten its neighbors.

One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."
--President Bill Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998

"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
--President Bill Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998

"Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face."
--Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998

"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983."
--Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998

"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."
Letter to President Clinton, signed by:
-- Democratic Senators Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others, Oct. 9, 1998

"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
-Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998

"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."
-- Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999

"There is no doubt that ... Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies."
Letter to President Bush, Signed by:
-- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), and others, Dec 5, 2001

"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and th! e means of delivering them."
-- Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002

"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."
-- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power."
-- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002

"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..."
-- Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002

"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force -- if necessary -- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
-- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002

"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years ... We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002

"He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do"
-- Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members ... It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
-- Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002

"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002

"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real..."
-- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003

[David Scott]

The WMD lie was just one of many. Al-Queida never had a presence in Iraq and it was known at the time that Bin-laden and Hussein had completely different agendas. Iraq was no a fundamentalist state like it's enemy Iran. The connection never made sense. The most reprehensible lie was inserting the language in the State of the Union address about the yellow-cake uranium from Niger knowing it was incorrect. It would of been so easy to strike that one sentence, but they couldn't do it.

Only know is Cheney admitting he was wrong about things, and most men become reflective when they are at the end of their careers.

[Stephen Eisel]

The WMD lie was just one of many. Al-Queida never had a presence in Iraq and it was known at the time that Bin-laden and Hussein had completely different agendas. Iraq was no a fundamentalist state like it's enemy Iran. The connection never made sense. The most reprehensible lie was inserting the language in the State of the Union address about the yellow-cake uranium from Niger knowing it was incorrect. It would of been so easy to strike that one sentence, but they couldn't do it.

Only know is Cheney admitting he was wrong about things, and most men become reflective when they are at the end of their careers.

http://www.factcheck.org/bushs_16_words ... anium.html

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[Ryan Salo]

Stephen,

Your links are great but the problem is it is all a conspiracy! If any report comes out that agrees with "Evil Bush" it must have been bought, or they are liars too.

You can't reason with people that don't trust anything that disagrees with them.

"Open minded" has really become the biggest lie of them all.

[David Scott]

there are a couple hundred stories and reports that say the guy lied - there are a couple hundred stories and reports that say he was mis-informed. He did give the head of the CIA, George "slam dunk" Tenet the Presidential Medal of Freedom, even though the information he provided was not correct. Noone will know the truth for 50 years because records are sealed so as far as I am concerned - whether Bush lied or was misinformed is irrelevent. How do we go forward from here ?

Besides the fact that I cannot support any act of aggression because it is not in my nature - the costs of the Iraq conflict are staggering. Just locally, the Lakewood Water department has had to raise rates to cover infrastructure renovations but we spend billions on Iraqi infrastrucure. We have destroyed a generation in Iraq that cannot be restored. There is upheavel in the Mid-East which might not be a direct result of our intervention in Iraq, but surely is a bi-product, that has resulted in the occupation of the Gaza Strip and the escalation of civil war in Lebanon. Budget deficits are at record levels and are destroying our economy (I still can't figure out why fiscal conservatives support the current spending in Iraq : go Ron Paul)

So the overall mismanagement of the conflict surely outweighs the problems with the build-up to it so stop focusing on the build-up.

We are in the process of establishing a long-term presence ala Japan and Germany and unlike the Marshall Plan, we don't have a defeated enemy to push aside and work with other nations to rebuild. Instead we work with a government which has been unable to govern, but they were democratically elected. If only we believed in democracy in Palestine I would have more patience, but we can't pick and choose our democracies.

It's kinda like a kid that you pay for a couple years of college and the kid doesn't do that well. Eventually you pull the economic support from the kid and watch with a heavy heart as they struggle. I believe James Dobson calls it tough love.

[Ivor Karabatkovic]

i posted this same article but no comments

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[Bill Call]

How old are the quotes? The dates are right there. From before 911 to after it. The same time Bush was saying them.

The Bush haters are beyond reason.

Yes, our intelligence agencies had it wrong, (Particularly the CIA), along with all of the other intelligence agencies in the world. And no, that doesn't mean George Bush lied anymore than it meant Al Gore lied or Bill Clinton lied or etc.

The Bush haters are so blinded by their hate they cheer each American defeat and relish each American death. Their fondest dream isn't a peaceful, democratic Iraq, but gigantic killing field. An Arabic Khmer Rouge, cool.

The authors of this article are working for a George Soros funded organization. That is where you will find the real lies.

[Stephen Eisel]

i posted this same article but no comments

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I am not crazy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Stephen Eisel]

Ivor, where did your thread go???

[TIM CARROLL]

Interesting development from Saddam Hussein's interrogator.


"Saddam still wouldn't admit he had no weapons of mass destruction, even when it was obvious there would be military action against him because of the perception he did. Because, says Piro, "For him, it was critical that he was seen as still the strong, defiant Saddam. He thought that [faking having the weapons] would prevent the Iranians from reinvading Iraq," he tells Pelley.

He also intended and had the wherewithal to restart the weapons program. "Saddam] still had the engineers. The folks that he needed to reconstitute his program are still there," says Piro. "He wanted to pursue all of WMD…to reconstitute his entire WMD program." This included chemical, biological and nuclear weapons, Piro says."



http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/01/ ... 9494.shtml

[Valerie Molinski]

How old are the quotes? The dates are right there. From before 911 to after it. The same time Bush was saying them.

The Bush haters are beyond reason.


The Bush haters are so blinded by their hate they cheer each American defeat and relish each American death. Their fondest dream isn't a peaceful, democratic Iraq, but gigantic killing field. An Arabic Khmer Rouge, cool.

The authors of this article are working for a George Soros funded organization. That is where you will find the real lies.

You have got to be kidding me. This is the sickest thing I have read on here. My brother in law is over there on his SECOND tour. The first was spent disarming IED's on a stretch of road every night while he was shot at. I most certainly do not revel in ANYONE's death to prove that the president was wrong or lied. I 'hate' Bush and what he has done here AND there, but I am in complete support of the jobs our troops are doing over there and want them all to come home safely to their families.

To even write what you just wrote disgusts me. People reveling every time someone loses a spouse, a child or a dad over there? I just want my brother in law to come home to his 6 month old baby who wont even know her dad for the next year.

Sickening.

[Ivor Karabatkovic]

[The authors of this article are working for a George Soros funded organization. That is where you will find the real lies.

hey it's better than any slant that Murdoch has you believing in

as for the title of my other thread (which is on this section of the forum, I'll delete it because we have this one) Bill said that I need a better title..

how about...
"Rupert Murdoch and Anne Coulter Sex Tape"

the product would be Bill O'Reilly.


Hey believe in what you want to believe. Who am I to say that I'm right and you're wrong..