Wonder What Wonder Boy Butler Will Say?

[Bridget Conant]

The Sixth Circuit Federal Appeals court ruled today that “chalking,” or marking tires as part of parking enforcement, is unconstitutional. This ruling affects Michigan, Ohio, Kentucky, and Tennessee.

Will he issue a notice to police to stop this practice or will he come up with one of his fantastical reasons why this doesn’t apply to Lakewood?

https://www.npr.org/2019/04/23/71624882 ... nstitution

[cmager]

The Sixth Circuit Federal Appeals court ruled today that “chalking,” or marking tires as part of parking enforcement, is unconstitutional. This ruling affects Michigan, Ohio, Kentucky, and Tennessee.

Will he issue a notice to police to stop this practice or will he come up with one of his fantastical reasons why this doesn’t apply to Lakewood?

https://www.npr.org/2019/04/23/71624882 ... nstitution

Depends on where is he today? Is he in Brooklyn, Lakewood, Downtown, or holed up with Fitzi?

[michael gill]

Does Lakewood parking enforcement mark tires with chalk?

I have not seen that practice here.

[Bridget Conant]

Yes they do.

Now they’ll have to use a camera.

[Jim O'Bryan]

Yes they do.

Now they’ll have to use a camera.

They do in rare instances. Meter parking, is computerized so parking enforcement officers can add to their Dbase and keep an eye on things. Also lots can be accessed from their cars to see who is paid up. Of course that is not our money as City of Lakewood has outsourced that!

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[Bridget Conant]

When they get a call about a car being parked and not moved, they come out and mark the tires. I’ve seen it often enough.

[michael gill]

Huh. I've never seen a chalk mark on a tire in Lakewood. I've been ticketed for expired meters (not nearly as much as I should have been over the years), but never saw a chalk mark.

Doesn't seem like this will be a priority. Besides, there are plenty of ways to monitor without touching the car.

[Jim O'Bryan]

Huh. I've never seen a chalk mark on a tire in Lakewood. I've been ticketed for expired meters (not nearly as much as I should have been over the years), but never saw a chalk mark.

Doesn't seem like this will be a priority. Besides, there are plenty of ways to monitor without touching the car.

Michael

It would be at no metered places, always for cars parked 24 hours without moving. They would mark it and the curb. The chances of it going somewhere, and coming back and lining up are nearly impossible. So if the two lines match, the car is ticketed.

This is not for metered areas.

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[michael gill]

Thanks Jim, I get that. I just have never seen a tire chalked in Lakewood. I haven't been here as long as you, but coming up on 25 years. Always in places where cars park up and down the street, one after the next.

[Jim O'Bryan]

Thanks Jim, I get that. I just have never seen a tire chalked in Lakewood. I haven't been here as long as you, but coming up on 25 years. Always in places where cars park up and down the street, one after the next.

Well heck Mr. Michael Gill, I remember back in the day bikes and carts had wood tires. Some pulled by animals, because that was the style at the time. Well a Constable, what we used to call police back in the day, would come up spinning his billy club, and notice a car parked too long. He would grab a twig and burn the end and sharpen it, marking the wood wheel, and the plank on the road where it was parked. This might have been the original "carbon dating" but I could be mistaken.

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[michael gill]

I love you, Jim.

Sincerely.

I wonder how many times in a year the city chalk marks a tire.

And I marvel at the amount of attention this ruling got, considering that time stamped photos are so easy. Could it be any less consequential?

[Bridget Conant]

Apparently, a LOT of people in a lot of towns have received tickets for overstaying their parking welcome or else it wouldn’t be that big of a deal.

[Vince Frantz]

I had a nosy neighbor call on my car on Winton one morning AFTER I had just dropped someone off from the airport but parked in the same spot. Officer knocked on my door at 8:30am to ask that I move my car. I explained I had just gotten back from the airport but it was my word vs hers. I asked if he would just chalk my tire as I assumed my neighbor was watching the whole thing from across the street because I was not about to give her the satisfaction of a "perp walk" out to my car to move it. Officer got the joke and chalked it for me.