Special ABR Meeting to Address Hospital Development
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Bill Call
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Special ABR Meeting to Address Hospital Development
The Architectural Board of Review will hold a special meeting next Tuesday, April 23rd at 6 p.m. in the City Hall auditorium. The sole agenda item is the One Lakewood Place development plan.
I didn't see the announcement on the web site but I will resist the temptation to call it a secret meeting.
http://www.onelakewood.com/accordions/a ... iew-board/
I didn't see the announcement on the web site but I will resist the temptation to call it a secret meeting.
http://www.onelakewood.com/accordions/a ... iew-board/
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Bridget Conant
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Re: Special ABR Meeting to Address Hospital Development
Do ABR meetings address delays or construction issues or are they merely for approval of visual design changes or issues?
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Re: Special ABR Meeting to Address Hospital Development
Bridget Conant wrote:Do ABR meetings address delays or construction issues or are they merely for approval of visual design changes or issues?
Bridget
I believe this is about moving the entire project back 200' - 400' as they are now in the middle of both building and destruction nightmares.
So they move another strip mall deep into another residential area.
Screw all the residents that have invested in the area, some of them for more than a single generation.
Mayor Summers, Sam O'Leary Council to everyone, we want you to move here, so we can abuse and lie to you later.
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Jim O'Bryan
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Bridget Conant
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Re: Special ABR Meeting to Address Hospital Development
That’s a SIGNIFICANT change. Totally changes the project. Seems like it would need approval beyond the ARB.Jim O'Bryan wrote:Bridget Conant wrote:Do ABR meetings address delays or construction issues or are they merely for approval of visual design changes or issues?
Bridget
I believe this is about moving the entire project back 200' - 400' as they are now in the middle of both building and destruction nightmares.
So they move another strip mall deep into another residential area.
Screw all the residents that have invested in the area, some of them for more than a single generation.
Mayor Summers, Sam O'Leary Council to everyone, we want you to move here, so we can abuse and lie to you later.
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cmager
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Re: Special ABR Meeting to Address Hospital Development
If it's setback that far, it will make for attractive ground-level metered parking. Y'all didn't consider the revenue stream from parking meters, did ya?Bridget Conant wrote:That’s a SIGNIFICANT change. Totally changes the project. Seems like it would need approval beyond the ARB.Jim O'Bryan wrote:BridgetBridget Conant wrote:Do ABR meetings address delays or construction issues or are they merely for approval of visual design changes or issues?
I believe this is about moving the entire project back 200' - 400' as they are now in the middle of both building and destruction nightmares. So they move another strip mall deep into another residential area. Screw all the residents that have invested in the area, some of them for more than a single generation.
Mayor Summers, Sam O'Leary Council to everyone, we want you to move here, so we can abuse and lie to you later.
Or for that more desirable, upscale Lakewood - valet parking, featuring an insider contract let to "Park Lakewood, dba Three Arches Valet, dba Summers Valet Inc"
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Re: Special ABR Meeting to Address Hospital Development
Bridget Conant wrote:That’s a SIGNIFICANT change. Totally changes the project. Seems like it would need approval beyond the ARB.
Bridget
I was assured it was not, as nothing has really been drawn up yet, and they are still unsure what will really be going there.
That's right 3 years of HURRY HURRY HURRY for nothing, is typical of this gang that can't shoot straight or tell the truth.
Mayor Summers, Law Director, Finance Director Council President Sam O'Leary would all rather lie and cover up than spend just one second being honest with Lakewoodites.
Seems like the only thing they really accomplished was the swift transfer of 42 million from fixing the hospital to friends of the Mayor to manage.
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Jim O'Bryan
Lakewood Resident
"The very act of observing disturbs the system."
Werner Heisenberg
"If anything I've said seems useful to you, I'm glad.
If not, don't worry. Just forget about it."
His Holiness The Dalai Lama
Lakewood Resident
"The very act of observing disturbs the system."
Werner Heisenberg
"If anything I've said seems useful to you, I'm glad.
If not, don't worry. Just forget about it."
His Holiness The Dalai Lama
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Mark Kindt
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Re: Special ABR Meeting to Address Hospital Development
Frankly, I do not see any positive change underway, nor do I expect any.
The adverse decisions that have been made are all expensive and irrevocable.
One way or another, a mixed-use development will be constructed upon the wreckage of Lakewood Hospital.
The wealthy will have access to new upscale town homes.
The citizens will subsidize that access.
Those in need can move elsewhere or do without.
That's the real message.
We just need to be honest with ourselves about what has happened and what is happening.
The adverse decisions that have been made are all expensive and irrevocable.
One way or another, a mixed-use development will be constructed upon the wreckage of Lakewood Hospital.
The wealthy will have access to new upscale town homes.
The citizens will subsidize that access.
Those in need can move elsewhere or do without.
That's the real message.
We just need to be honest with ourselves about what has happened and what is happening.
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MarkMark Kindt wrote: We just need to be honest with ourselves about what has happened and what is happening.
You and I will disagree on this til our death.
There is no hospital coming back, yes.
Many in the City more comfortable with the lies told by City Hall, than the truth.
However, the people that lied and covered up the truth need to be held high and remembered. For their part in not only the largest failure of a City Government in the area. But also the lies, scheming and scamming that accompanied it.
We cannot afford to forget the line of succession set up by the scammers Ed FitzGerald to Mike Summers to Sam O'Leary. ZERO regards for residents or truth. We must not forget those involved for over 7 years that lied and said they knew nothing about it. FitzGerald, Summers, Butler, Bullock, Madigan, Litten and O'Leary. We must never forget those on council that stood by doing nothing why the residents had to commit to thousands of hours and dollars in a costly lawsuit to get documents ever court said were public. Council President Sam O'Leary, John Litten, David Anderson, Tom Bullock, Cindy Marx that never once took the time to see if all the reports were true. That the entire deal was a scheme to get Foundation dollars and property for a small group to build on.
Right now the people above are including accountability, transparency and honesty in their campaign literature. And who would blame them, lying has worked so far in their political careers.
No, this group wants accountability, time to bring it, not shy away.
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Jim O'Bryan
Lakewood Resident
"The very act of observing disturbs the system."
Werner Heisenberg
"If anything I've said seems useful to you, I'm glad.
If not, don't worry. Just forget about it."
His Holiness The Dalai Lama
Lakewood Resident
"The very act of observing disturbs the system."
Werner Heisenberg
"If anything I've said seems useful to you, I'm glad.
If not, don't worry. Just forget about it."
His Holiness The Dalai Lama
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Mark Kindt
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Re: Special ABR Meeting to Address Hospital Development
Just some facts:
1. Hospital being demolished.
2. Developer selected.
3. Subsidies granted.
4. Water/Sewer rates increased.
5. Local hospital-based charity care eliminated.
6. Locally high rates of childhood poverty, lack of health insurance, high rates of disability documented by retained City experts in 2018.
The majority of our elected representatives were/are on-board for all of this when they dismantled the safety-net and proclaimed that healthcare was changing.
Not one of them would participate in any attempt to request review by outside officials to examine alleged "bad government" improprieties identified by numerous public interest lawyers.
What should I be expecting?
1. Hospital being demolished.
2. Developer selected.
3. Subsidies granted.
4. Water/Sewer rates increased.
5. Local hospital-based charity care eliminated.
6. Locally high rates of childhood poverty, lack of health insurance, high rates of disability documented by retained City experts in 2018.
The majority of our elected representatives were/are on-board for all of this when they dismantled the safety-net and proclaimed that healthcare was changing.
Not one of them would participate in any attempt to request review by outside officials to examine alleged "bad government" improprieties identified by numerous public interest lawyers.
What should I be expecting?
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Mark Kindt
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Re: Special ABR Meeting to Address Hospital Development
Lakewood has chosen the path of taxpayer-subsidized gentrification at the expense of its residents who are most in need of healthcare services.
That path has extensive "buy-in" from all the civic leadership regardless of honesty, transparency, and accountability.
Lakewood has chosen its path.
How much has the Healthy Lakewood Foundation spent on local healthcare initiatives since the hospital closed in 2016? $0.00
How much has the City of Lakewood committed to upscale gentrification? $30,000,000.
We need to stop pretending that public discourse about municipal issues has achieved anything.
That path has extensive "buy-in" from all the civic leadership regardless of honesty, transparency, and accountability.
Lakewood has chosen its path.
How much has the Healthy Lakewood Foundation spent on local healthcare initiatives since the hospital closed in 2016? $0.00
How much has the City of Lakewood committed to upscale gentrification? $30,000,000.
We need to stop pretending that public discourse about municipal issues has achieved anything.
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Mark Kindt
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Re: Special ABR Meeting to Address Hospital Development
If you count the approximately $21,000,000 of hospital-based charity care that could have been delivered locally in 2016, 2017, and 2018, the spread between healthcare service deprivation and taxpayer subsidies for gentrification is about $50 million dollars.Mark Kindt wrote:Lakewood has chosen the path of taxpayer-subsidized gentrification at the expense of its residents who are most in need of healthcare services.
That path has extensive "buy-in" from all the civic leadership regardless of honesty, transparency, and accountability.
Lakewood has chosen its path.
How much has the Healthy Lakewood Foundation spent on local healthcare initiatives since the hospital closed in 2016? $0.00
How much has the City of Lakewood committed to upscale gentrification? $30,000,000.
We need to stop pretending that public discourse about municipal issues has achieved anything.
I have one vote and I shall use that vote in 2019 to vote against any incumbent on my local ballot.
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Bridget Conant
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Re: Special ABR Meeting to Address Hospital Development
Mark,
Locally high rates of childhood poverty, lack of health insurance, high rates of disability.
Instead, Mayor Summers holds “seminars” lecturing local restaurant owners on how THEY can make Lakewood the “Healthiest City in America!”
http://lakewoodobserver.com/forum/viewt ... =7&t=25223
Foundation money spent on healthcare since 2016. ZEROWhat should I be expecting?
Locally high rates of childhood poverty, lack of health insurance, high rates of disability.
Instead, Mayor Summers holds “seminars” lecturing local restaurant owners on how THEY can make Lakewood the “Healthiest City in America!”
http://lakewoodobserver.com/forum/viewt ... =7&t=25223
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Brian Essi
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Re: Special ABR Meeting to Address Hospital Development
What are the dimensions needed for a soccer field...with room for a river running through it?cmager wrote:If it's setback that far, it will make for attractive ground-level metered parking. Y'all didn't consider the revenue stream from parking meters, did ya?Bridget Conant wrote:That’s a SIGNIFICANT change. Totally changes the project. Seems like it would need approval beyond the ARB.Jim O'Bryan wrote:BridgetBridget Conant wrote:Do ABR meetings address delays or construction issues or are they merely for approval of visual design changes or issues?
I believe this is about moving the entire project back 200' - 400' as they are now in the middle of both building and destruction nightmares. So they move another strip mall deep into another residential area. Screw all the residents that have invested in the area, some of them for more than a single generation.
Mayor Summers, Sam O'Leary Council to everyone, we want you to move here, so we can abuse and lie to you later.
Or for that more desirable, upscale Lakewood - valet parking, featuring an insider contract let to "Park Lakewood, dba Three Arches Valet, dba Summers Valet Inc"
I would like to fly fish right in Lakewood instead of having to go all the way down to the Rocky River.
David Anderson has no legitimate answers
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Bill Call
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Re: Special ABR Meeting to Address Hospital Development
The ABR meeting is Tuesday, March 23 at 6 PM. I plan on attending.
If ABR approves significant changes in the development would that require a new vote by Council?
I've been told that Hospital officials were aware of the problems with the site for many years. Did they communicate those problems to the City?
If not why not?
If so was council made aware of those problems?
Why did Council approve a plan than would never be built?
It's clear that the Mayor and his team never gave any thought to what comes after: Hey guys, lets close the Hospital and transfer $70 million in cash and investments to private foundations!!
If ABR approves significant changes in the development would that require a new vote by Council?
I've been told that Hospital officials were aware of the problems with the site for many years. Did they communicate those problems to the City?
If not why not?
If so was council made aware of those problems?
Why did Council approve a plan than would never be built?
It's clear that the Mayor and his team never gave any thought to what comes after: Hey guys, lets close the Hospital and transfer $70 million in cash and investments to private foundations!!
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cmager
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Re: Special ABR Meeting to Address Hospital Development
Hey guys, lets close the Hospital and transfer $70 million in cash and investments to ourselves via private foundations!!Bill Call wrote:The ABR meeting is Tuesday, APRIL(?) 23 at 6 PM. I plan on attending.
It's clear that the Mayor and his team never gave any thought to what comes after: Hey guys, lets close the Hospital and transfer $70 million in cash and investments to private foundations!!