The City Has A Limited Right To Repurchase The Hospital Site
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Mark Kindt
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The City Has A Limited Right To Repurchase The Hospital Site
The City Has The Right To Repurchase The Hospital Site Under Certain Very Limited Conditions
In the draft text that I am posting today, we can see that the City of Lakewood does have a limited right to repurchase the hospital site under certain conditions.
CAVEAT: I do not have a current copy of the final Agreement between the City of Lakewood and Carnegie Management And Development. I do not know whether or not the Pre-Closing Appraisal required by this Agreement has taken place. If it has taken place, I do not know its values.
The draft agreement generally provides that in such a repurchase situation, the City of Lakewood would be required to pay the developer (at a minimum) the difference between the Pre-Closing Appraisal and the Updated Appraisal stemming from the repurchase situation.
Obviously, the amount the City of Lakewood would have to pay the developer would be significantly in excess of the $1.00 sale price.
Council-member O'Malley is fundamentally correct in his understanding of how this is structured (as noted in another post of today's date.)
In the draft text that I am posting today, we can see that the City of Lakewood does have a limited right to repurchase the hospital site under certain conditions.
CAVEAT: I do not have a current copy of the final Agreement between the City of Lakewood and Carnegie Management And Development. I do not know whether or not the Pre-Closing Appraisal required by this Agreement has taken place. If it has taken place, I do not know its values.
The draft agreement generally provides that in such a repurchase situation, the City of Lakewood would be required to pay the developer (at a minimum) the difference between the Pre-Closing Appraisal and the Updated Appraisal stemming from the repurchase situation.
Obviously, the amount the City of Lakewood would have to pay the developer would be significantly in excess of the $1.00 sale price.
Council-member O'Malley is fundamentally correct in his understanding of how this is structured (as noted in another post of today's date.)
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Repurchase Of The Hospital Site Could Be Costly If Project Fails
Here's an example of estimated costs should the project fail at 25% completion. These are not small numbers.
Here's an example of estimated costs should the project fail at 25% completion. These are not small numbers.
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My head is spinning
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Next Example: City Elects Not To Repurchase -- Still High Cost Decision
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While it may seem entirely irrational for the City of Lakewood to actually abandon the former hospital site should the development project fail, there is significant recent precedent for the City to do so.
1. Abandonment of long-term current and future hospital lease revenues;
2. Abandonment of hospital employee income tax revenues;
3. Abandonment of public hospital delivered charity care;
4. Abandonment of a public hospital building;
...need I say more.
Now, nothing would surprise me.
1. Abandonment of long-term current and future hospital lease revenues;
2. Abandonment of hospital employee income tax revenues;
3. Abandonment of public hospital delivered charity care;
4. Abandonment of a public hospital building;
...need I say more.
Now, nothing would surprise me.
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The City Has An Illusory Right To Repurchase The Hospital Site I
Sometimes legal rights are illusory.
I believe that that is the actual case with the City's development agreement with its selected developer.
The rights in the development agreement could never be effectively used in the real world should the developer go bankrupt or fail to perform.
In the event of bankruptcy, the City would not be able to exercise this contractual repurchase right. Why? Because the contract rights of the lenders would control.
The property would be part of the bankruptcy estate and would most likely be auctioned off to satisfy the needs of the lenders that funded the development project. The bankruptcy court would, in most instances, be permitted to ignore the City's development contract with the developer.
Some parties, including the City, might be able to receive a small percentage share of the bankruptcy liquidation value of the property. There is no guarantee of this in the bankruptcy environment.
Sometimes legal rights are illusory.
I believe that that is the actual case with the City's development agreement with its selected developer.
The rights in the development agreement could never be effectively used in the real world should the developer go bankrupt or fail to perform.
In the event of bankruptcy, the City would not be able to exercise this contractual repurchase right. Why? Because the contract rights of the lenders would control.
The property would be part of the bankruptcy estate and would most likely be auctioned off to satisfy the needs of the lenders that funded the development project. The bankruptcy court would, in most instances, be permitted to ignore the City's development contract with the developer.
Some parties, including the City, might be able to receive a small percentage share of the bankruptcy liquidation value of the property. There is no guarantee of this in the bankruptcy environment.
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The City Has An Illusory Right To Repurchase The Hospital Site II
Sometimes legal rights are illusory.
In the event that the developer fails to perform, the City has a contractual right to repurchase the property by also satisfying the lenders who funded the development project.
Whether this contractual right is illusory in a real world setting cannot be determined without a review of the contracts between the developer and its lenders.
However, that said, we can be reasonably sure that these contracts will run in favor of the lenders and may possibly impair the City's rights under its development agreement.
The costs of having to litigate conflicting contract rights among the City, its developers, and the developers' lenders may be more expensive than the value of the repurchase.
I use the plural for "developers", because the selected developer has a right to contract with another developer for the residential portion of the project under the development agreement.
Trust me, we are giving away the hospital property for $1.00. That property will never return to the City of Lakewood.
Sometimes legal rights are illusory.
In the event that the developer fails to perform, the City has a contractual right to repurchase the property by also satisfying the lenders who funded the development project.
Whether this contractual right is illusory in a real world setting cannot be determined without a review of the contracts between the developer and its lenders.
However, that said, we can be reasonably sure that these contracts will run in favor of the lenders and may possibly impair the City's rights under its development agreement.
The costs of having to litigate conflicting contract rights among the City, its developers, and the developers' lenders may be more expensive than the value of the repurchase.
I use the plural for "developers", because the selected developer has a right to contract with another developer for the residential portion of the project under the development agreement.
Trust me, we are giving away the hospital property for $1.00. That property will never return to the City of Lakewood.
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Again, Who In Their Right Mind Would Ever Do This?
--Demolish an award-winning, heritage, public, community hospital and then giveaway the property for $1.00...
Here's the key page:
--Demolish an award-winning, heritage, public, community hospital and then giveaway the property for $1.00...
Here's the key page:
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Lakewood--the originator and home of an entirely new economic concept--Reverse Capitalism
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An Aspersion From The Reaches Of The Dark Web
Folks, here's how this works in Lakewood.
If you attempt to offer intelligent and documented criticism of municipal public policy, more harassment inevitably follows:
Folks, here's how this works in Lakewood.
If you attempt to offer intelligent and documented criticism of municipal public policy, more harassment inevitably follows:
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Mark Kindt wrote:An Aspersion From The Reaches Of The Dark Web
Folks, here's how this works in Lakewood.
If you attempt to offer intelligent and documented criticism of municipal public policy, more harassment inevitably follows:
Probably the same person claiming mental problems every time he gets caught.
The sick part is how City Hall, the Mayor, Council President Sam O'Leary not only look the other way, but encourage this bullshit.
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Definitely not an ordinary “citizen.”
Anonymous emails always come from guys with no balls - probably the wife wears the pants.
Lakewood Council is complicit in this because they look the other way. They know it’s going on because they are tagged in every tweet. Don’t they ever get tired of that?
Anonymous emails always come from guys with no balls - probably the wife wears the pants.
Lakewood Council is complicit in this because they look the other way. They know it’s going on because they are tagged in every tweet. Don’t they ever get tired of that?
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An Educational Moment
Here we can see how the Tor Server system can be used for anonymous harassment of citizens exercising First Amendment rights.
Here's is a link for more information:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tor_(anonymity_network)
Many Lakewood citizens have been the victims of similar incidents of harassment when commenting upon local public policy issues.
What is perhaps so unique about this, as so many of us already know, is that the individual that sent me this email is immune from local prosecution.
Here we can see how the Tor Server system can be used for anonymous harassment of citizens exercising First Amendment rights.
Here's is a link for more information:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tor_(anonymity_network)
Many Lakewood citizens have been the victims of similar incidents of harassment when commenting upon local public policy issues.
What is perhaps so unique about this, as so many of us already know, is that the individual that sent me this email is immune from local prosecution.
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You cleaned that story up!Bridget Conant wrote:Lakewood Council is complicit in this because they look the other way. They know it’s going on because they are tagged in every tweet. Don’t they ever get tired of that?
Abusing and using a person who claims mental illness is sick.
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Jim O'Bryan
Lakewood Resident
"The very act of observing disturbs the system."
Werner Heisenberg
"If anything I've said seems useful to you, I'm glad.
If not, don't worry. Just forget about it."
His Holiness The Dalai Lama
Lakewood Resident
"The very act of observing disturbs the system."
Werner Heisenberg
"If anything I've said seems useful to you, I'm glad.
If not, don't worry. Just forget about it."
His Holiness The Dalai Lama
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Official Knowledge of Citizen HarassmentMark Kindt wrote:An Educational Moment
Here we can see how the Tor Server system can be used for anonymous harassment of citizens exercising First Amendment rights.
Here's is a link for more information:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tor_(anonymity_network)
Many Lakewood citizens have been the victims of similar incidents of harassment when commenting upon local public policy issues.
What is perhaps so unique about this, as so many of us already know, is that the individual that sent me this email is immune from local prosecution.
I will make a final point about this and then move on to other public policy topics.
Virtually every public employee and elected official in Lakewood, from the policeman on the beat to the Mayor's office to the Law Department to the Municipal Court staff know that this former political operative and former public employee has been routinely harassing a wide variety of Lakewood residents who have expressed political opinions about the closure of the hospital.