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Lakewood's Race To Be Just Like Everyone Else...

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For more than 15 years some of us have pointed out, that there is a small group of people that are happy with nothing that is not new and shiny. We have watched as time and time again mediocre ideas are rolled out as "desperately needed or it will be the end of Lakewood." Yet many never made it to fruition and it was not the death of Lakewood far from it, Lakewood has responded again and again proving something many of us have realized all along. Dedicate yourself to being the best place to live and raise a family, and you will stand out in the haze of pseudo cool and the race for the next shiny object. "If Lakewood does not build a strip mall at the end of Detroit, it will be the end of Lakewood." Yawn. Not even close.

At the same time every time this small group of people succeed in their at best mediocre ideas, it knocks Lakewood down a peg. We desperately need a high end shopping mall in the center of Lakewood. It needs to have glass walkways between it and Lakewood Hospital. Or else we die. They deliver Marc's Plaza. We need to attract corporate giants to be based in Lakewood. They bring in 5 Guys headquarters, errrr regional headquarters, errrrr regional training center. In reality a small training area for 5-10 new employees. Of course they took the credit and lied, it was actually the owner of the building that brought them in. But success at any price. "If we do not rebuild Kauffman Park Mall and attacks big box chains like Quaker Steak and Lube it will be the death of Lakewood." Yawn, they came and left leaving behind a hairstylist and two locally owned restaurants.

Which brings us to, if we do not rebuild DowntowN Lakewood Hospital will leave." If we do not support the rebuilding of Lakewood Hospital and the Centers of Excellence the hospital will leave." If we do not turn our prison like Lakewood center North into high end apartments the hospital will leave." Of course all of this was done while the very people saying that were trying the get the hospital to close, so they could grab the land, the $$$$ and finally deliver their twisted bent, much copied and always late version of Utopia, "One Lakewood Place."

With that, I give you a quick look at our future, and what the rest of the country sees.

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The new home of Three Arches and a coffee shop, ice cream parlor and a $1.7 million black hole for taxes in a best case scenerio. In short a monument to the lies of City Hall and its supporters.

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and...

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Back in 2015 I posted these images...

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Strip malls, bar based economy or a community based on quality family life, education, safety, honesty, transparency and accountability.

Sorry I have to go, need to be the first at a new place just opened serving bathtub gin with tide pods, it is oh so cool.

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The issue I see with respect to Lakewood's race to be like everyone else is that our chief assets are a challenge to maintain, and the economy is stacked against their replacement.

We have all these old buildings, which are great for independent and unique businesses of all kinds, from West Side Skates to the Root to Plantation Home. By that choice of examples, I mean to point out that it is not all bars and hair salons. You can do business here. Those old mixed use buildings are a great incubator for the mom-and-pops. Though we do have an awful lot of bars.

The problem comes when someone fails to maintain one of those buildings and is forced to demolish, as was the case with the Hilliard Theater and the building at the corner of Edwards Ave, or when someone just decides it is time to cash out to the highest bidder, as seems to have been the case with the Detroit Theater.

It seems there is a very limited range of developers who have the money and motivation to build new on these small lots. Drug stores and fast food lead the charge, which means national chains, which makes Lakewood feel more like everyone else.
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michael gill wrote:The issue I see with respect to Lakewood's race to be like everyone else is that our chief assets are a challenge to maintain, and the economy is stacked against their replacement.

We have all these old buildings, which are great for independent and unique businesses of all kinds, from West Side Skates to the Root to Plantation Home. By that choice of examples, I mean to point out that it is not all bars and hair salons. You can do business here. Those old mixed use buildings are a great incubator for the mom-and-pops. Though we do have an awful lot of bars.

The problem comes when someone fails to maintain one of those buildings and is forced to demolish, as was the case with the Hilliard Theater and the building at the corner of Edwards Ave, or when someone just decides it is time to cash out to the highest bidder, as seems to have been the case with the Detroit Theater.

It seems there is a very limited range of developers who have the money and motivation to build new on these small lots. Drug stores and fast food lead the charge, which means national chains, which makes Lakewood feel more like everyone else.

Mr. Gill

If someone fails to maintain their buildings or homes, the city should enforce their codes. For far too long the City has enforced residents while letting businesses and favorite business owners slide or completely break rules and norms. This underlines City Hall preferring business over residents, which is a complete shift and departure from a century of thinking. For ever businesses in Lakewood were thought of as a way to serve our residential base. Almost ZERO industry, all small shops catering to walk in traffic.

During the FitzGerald Administration that changed drastically. Business and friends first, screw the residents, the seniors, and everyone not willing to play Ed's way. Hence so many of the cuts and shifts in City Services for residents, and many that not only brought residents in but set us apart from the rest of the county. As noted here when Ed was running for office, his group were regionalists. No longer did Lakewood matter, his place in the region mattered and oh yeah Lakewood a little bit. Ed was ambitious, and made no bones about it, he was going to finish Bobby Kennedy's walk to the White House, and he would tell anyone willing to listen.

But there were fundamental problems with his, and his supporters dreams and visions. Major flaws, that they loved to ignore or skip over as it never really affected them or their neighborhoods. Residential neighborhoods, ones that were designed for living, education and raising families start to deteriorate with the encroachment of business, commercials zones and their favorite stepping stone, "mixed use zones." And whenever a glaring problem cropped up with the idea, the supporters and sycophants were there to lie, misrepresent and cover it all up with words not actions or proof. It is like "trickle down economics" on paper it could work, but it never has and for many reasons and facts that have been proven time and time again.

And as they continue to fail, and far farther and farther from their miscalculated dreams and lies, they become more and more desperate grasping for straws, and screwing up more and more of an idyllic community that was vibrant, growing and maintaining itself with little or no maintenance outside of typical services from a city. Witness the promises of Marc's Plaza. Witness the promises of "Downtown." These items failed in their promises so badly, this group of misguided losers had to grab City Hall, self off our largest and most profitable assets just to take one more crack at their lies and dreams. We were promised $120 million in outside development, great new health care, and a vibrant DowntowN. What they delivered was a black hole multi use strip mall where they could house their club to manage funds they boosted, a cafe, a dry cleaner and maybe, maybe a Mitchell's Ice Cream shop. Over promise, LIE, LIE, LIE under deliver is their history, and should be on all of their tombstones. In this constant search from very bad dreams and fractured fairy takes they have once again left the city worse off than before. Hell as pointed out elsewhere our new healthcare is costing us million and thousands a dollars per each visit more than before!

But there might be no better person to kick this with than you. Editor of FreeTimes as community after community made wild promises only to fall short, as reported regularly by the FreeTimes. Or you who have watched this City destroy once quiet streets with drive thrus and drunk parlors galore, that in the end add less to the economy then the neighborhoods they ruined. The City desperate to break all rules to put a drive in Taco Bell next to your house. Then they discovered a loophole that paid Taco Bell to stay where they were. OK maybe a Wendy's, or a Beer Garden for 640 with parking for 6. Anything new, anything at all to take our minds off their failures.

And to take our minds off of one other thing. The best place to develop, the best place to keep taxes low, and make real money for the community is their neighborhoods. Develop the Lakefront we are still not allowed to touch. Develop the Gold Coast west into Nicholson, Homewood, Wilbert, and we could cash in. Open Clifton Beach and build high rises and restaurants along our lake's edge like every community bringing in serious dollars. Yeah let's get new people in office and open the lakefront, then 98% of the community could once again live in peace, with low taxes, vibrant businesses and well funded schools. Let's go NORTH!

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It's Crocker envy.
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Whether one agrees or disagrees with Deagan's concept for the Food Truck / Beer Garden, that is absolutely NOT like everyone else. Outside of Austin, Texas I am not sure where that concept exists in the US. Europe? Absolutely. But US, probably just a few cities. I understand how that is not the best for the specific area but to say that the concept is just like everyone else is just wrong, IMHO.
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Change is hard, y'all.
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Indeed, it is!

Change is this hard:

No hospital...

No medical buildings...

No independent physicians...

No hospital-related charity care...

No foundation to support a hospital...

No accountability...

No ethics...

No honesty...

AND

Approximately $44,200,000 in public subsidies to private third-party entities (not including the Cleveland Clinic).
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The change we need is municipal reform!
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Mark Kindt wrote:The change we need is municipal reform!
And THAT is what is truly hard.
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I know the food truck concept is new to the region, probably new to the state, and therefore not like everyone else.

My point relates to the likely companies that will build new in Lakewood. The commercial track record is pretty clear: McDonalds, Rite Aid, CVS, Taco Bell, the occasional regional thing like Drug Mart.

This proposed beer garden is clearly not in that mold.

Neither are those are not my concerns with the beer garden.

My concerns are that it will be by far the largest outdoor drinking facility in the city, with TVs and cornhole and fire pits built into the proposal, about 60 feet from my front door. It will add a fifth bar to a block already busy with four bars. With 240 seats it will not only be among the largest (if not the largest, I have not counted) on the block, but among the largest in the city as well. Outdoors. Sixty feet from my front door.

With the bars and a ballpark, and a lot of density, the parking already overflows to the vacant lot Friday and Saturday nights, and whenever there is a ball game at the park. The parking they talk about in association with this project is already full. It is being double counted. The city changed the parking code so that instead of a required number of spaces for every four seats (or whatever), it's now one seat per thousand square feet of building. This is a 6000 square foot building. But the seats in this case--less than half of them are in the building. So a 240 seat bar, according to the city code, requires just 6 parking spaces.

Most (if not all) the patios in town are not only MUCH smaller, but also on the street side of their buildings, therefore the outdoor drinking is shielded from residential by the building. Humble is like that. Vosh. Barrio. Beer Engine. Tiny little Peppers. In this case, they have chosen to put the outdoor drinking on the residential side, and use the building to protect not the residents, but Detroit Avenue from the noise. I suggested that the building be relocated between residential and the beer garden, so that this would be sidewalk drinking and dining. To make a "strong corner," which is a term the architects like, I suggested that the plans include some kind of architectural shelter, like the one at the NE corner of Bunts and Madison. The applicant apparently likes this idea, but the Planning department insists, No, we can;t have that. We have to have the building on the corner. Why? because you have to imagine that this building will be here in 50 years.

Incidentally, the building is not a brick building or anything like the familiar, durable architecture that you think of when you think of Lakewood. It is essentially a stylish pole barn with all its walls made of garage doors. 50 years? OK.

In my opinion, this is the city disregarding quality of life for the people who have chosen to live in the city specifically because of the qualities the city brags about. I like to be able to walk and bike to useful stores and services. But "density" is not the same word as "bars." This is not neighborhood convenience. It is a destination, a drinking resort.

Sure, Val, change is hard. That's it.
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My question is what are the current ordinances regarding public drinking and open containers on city streets? No way are all the patrons going to stay off the sidewalk.

Are there plans to change the current laws to allow this use?
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michael gill wrote:
Sure, Val, change is hard. That's it.
Michael, my comment was not directed at you. For the record, I actually completely agreed with the assessment in your first post.
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michael gill wrote:My concerns are that it will be by far the largest outdoor drinking facility in the city, with TVs and cornhole and fire pits built into the proposal, about 60 feet from my front door. It will add a fifth bar to a block already busy with four bars. With 240 seats it will not only be among the largest (if not the largest, I have not counted) on the block, but among the largest in the city as well. Outdoors. Sixty feet from my front door.
You are wasting your time talking to the Mayor or Council members. If you and your neighbors don't want a 240 seat bar next door you need to make the precinct dry. You can try to do it before the bar is built or after the bar is built. If you lose one vote you can petition for another. As far as I know you can force a vote every year.
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Valerie Molinski wrote:Change is hard, y'all.
Val

Not always, especially when it comes with some thought process, and respect for what is already invested there.

Change can be very easy, when it adds to what is nearby.

It can even be easier with a plan, transparency, and open communications.

The City of Lakewood has no plan, no idea where it is going and has become desperate for anything.

All of this makes changes like this harder to take and or even understand.

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Bill Call wrote:You are wasting your time talking to the Mayor or Council members. If you and your neighbors don't want a 240 seat bar next door you need to make the precinct dry. You can try to do it before the bar is built or after the bar is built. If you lose one vote you can petition for another. As far as I know you can force a vote every year.
This is interesting. And I have to say that I feel quite appreciative of direct democracy's importance, in general, lately.

Is the process simply a citizen initiative, as described in section 9.2 of the city charter? (Which is online here, for anyone who doesn't have their sample copy from last year handy.)

If that's the case, I presume that one would then consult the 2015 mayoral results, and need valid signatures equal to 1/10 the total votes for mayoral candidates within the relevant precinct?
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