Should We Trust O'Donnell to be the Judge for the Hospital Debacle?
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Lori Allen _
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Lori Allen _
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Re: Should We Trust O'Donnell to be the Judge for the Hospital Debacle?
According to this, former County Executive Ed Fitzgerald and Cuyahoga County Council permitted O'Donnell and former Sheriff Bob Reid to allegedly continue discriminating against blacks in foreclosure cases by purposely deflating the home values and selling homes owned by blacks to friends for pennies on the dollar.
http://www.kathywraycolemanonlinenewsbl ... fraud.html
http://www.kathywraycolemanonlinenewsbl ... fraud.html
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Lori Allen _
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I thought this deserved a bump. I suggest everyone interested in saving the hospital read up on this guy. I feel with O'donnell, there will not be a fair trial. It appears he belongs to the "I've Got Friends in Low Places Club".
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Pam Wetula
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Re: Should We Trust O'Donnell to be the Judge for the Hospital Debacle?
Hi Lori,
I can only say that I was in front of Judge O'Donnell a number of years ago. I and all Area Directors for a Networking group were being sued because our region had broken away and we had decided to stay with the new entity here in NEOH and Western PA. There were a number of issues addressed. I found this judge to be intelligent and competent. The case I was involved with was eventually dismissed after at least a year. That was painful!!
I have not studied the housing cases you have pointed out. When I have time, I will read up on the topic (and I am interested because I am a Loan Officer).
I just wanted to say that I and several people I know in different instances have experienced a Judge O'Donnell who is thoughtful and careful in his decisions (even if they haven't received the verdict they wanted).
pam
I can only say that I was in front of Judge O'Donnell a number of years ago. I and all Area Directors for a Networking group were being sued because our region had broken away and we had decided to stay with the new entity here in NEOH and Western PA. There were a number of issues addressed. I found this judge to be intelligent and competent. The case I was involved with was eventually dismissed after at least a year. That was painful!!
I have not studied the housing cases you have pointed out. When I have time, I will read up on the topic (and I am interested because I am a Loan Officer).
I just wanted to say that I and several people I know in different instances have experienced a Judge O'Donnell who is thoughtful and careful in his decisions (even if they haven't received the verdict they wanted).
pam
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Lori Allen _
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Re: Should We Trust O'Donnell to be the Judge for the Hospital Debacle?
Pam, I respectfully have to disagree with you. If O'donnell claims he has too much evidence to read over and that is why he keeps postponing the case, why did he not put a stay on the hospital? I think SLH attorneys had better wake up. Another judge should have been requested. This way, the case could have been tried out of the county sooner. I believe you will not get a fair trial in Cuyahoga County. I think there has been plenty of evidence posted here on the Deck. Knowing the way that some members of the Save Lakewood Hospital private chat room here on the Deck are, they probably did not even read anything I posted. As I have said before, the two leaders of SLH have shot people down and controlled everything. Maybe that is why we are where we are today. IMO
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Marguerite Harkness
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Re: Should We Trust O'Donnell to be the Judge for the Hospital Debacle?
Lori, respectfully, I respond as one of the "two leaders of Save Lakewood Hospital" - I, and WE, have not "shot anyone down." I/we appreciate all the careful research you are doing, and have done.
I invite you to attend SLH meetings, where you will learn more about what we are doing. Your careful research can be more productive in that environment where we can invite/assign individuals to follow up on separate issues.
Thank you for caring so much.
I invite you to attend SLH meetings, where you will learn more about what we are doing. Your careful research can be more productive in that environment where we can invite/assign individuals to follow up on separate issues.
Thank you for caring so much.
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Pam Wetula
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Re: Should We Trust O'Donnell to be the Judge for the Hospital Debacle?
Hi Lori & Marguerite
Nice to hear from you both. All three of us care deeply about this issue.
I cannot say what Judge O'Donnell's motives are - I was only giving my experience.
Many, many lawsuits are delayed beyond bearing & I am not saying that is right. I really wanted O'Donnell to stay the closing of the hospital too and I DO NOT like the delays. That being said, I would prefer that a judge carefully read and digest all the information instead of passing a too hasty ruling.
I respect your work Lori and was just stating that fact last evening. I also respect the hard work all Save Lakewood Hospital Team , including the leadership, has been doing. I just jumped on board the very end of April, 2015.
It is very hard to say what another judge would have done. I have read your posts Lori and you have done a tremendous amount of work. It is hard to say that an out of Cuyahoga County court would be better. The CCF's influence reaches far & wide as does that of some politicians.
I am praying for and working towards the best solution for the citizen's of Lakewood, Ohio. The people will have their say at the polls sometime this year. We are all on the same side...the right side. I hope to see you both at the Save Lakewood Hospital meeting on Sunday, 4pm in the Library Multipurpose room.
Warmest Regards,
pam
Nice to hear from you both. All three of us care deeply about this issue.
I cannot say what Judge O'Donnell's motives are - I was only giving my experience.
Many, many lawsuits are delayed beyond bearing & I am not saying that is right. I really wanted O'Donnell to stay the closing of the hospital too and I DO NOT like the delays. That being said, I would prefer that a judge carefully read and digest all the information instead of passing a too hasty ruling.
I respect your work Lori and was just stating that fact last evening. I also respect the hard work all Save Lakewood Hospital Team , including the leadership, has been doing. I just jumped on board the very end of April, 2015.
It is very hard to say what another judge would have done. I have read your posts Lori and you have done a tremendous amount of work. It is hard to say that an out of Cuyahoga County court would be better. The CCF's influence reaches far & wide as does that of some politicians.
I am praying for and working towards the best solution for the citizen's of Lakewood, Ohio. The people will have their say at the polls sometime this year. We are all on the same side...the right side. I hope to see you both at the Save Lakewood Hospital meeting on Sunday, 4pm in the Library Multipurpose room.
Warmest Regards,
pam
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Dan Alaimo
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Re: Should We Trust O'Donnell to be the Judge for the Hospital Debacle?
Lori, I've never met you, so perhaps you've come to the SLH meetings; I wouldn't know. If you go, you will find that one or more of the lawyers are usually there and you can take the opportunity to speak with them directly.
“Never let a good crisis go to waste." - Winston Churchill (Quote later appropriated by Rahm Emanuel)
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Lori Allen _
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Re: Should We Trust O'Donnell to be the Judge for the Hospital Debacle?
All,
I have posted the research I have found here. You are more than welcome to print it out and use it for your benefit. However, I have no desire to go back to attending SLH meetings. While it was enjoyable at the beginning, it became more of a chore and hassle to attend more than a pleasure. It seemed to me that whenever myself or most others brought up suggestions or information at the meetings, that myself and others were often rebuked and spoken to in a scathing manner as to why our idea would not work or why our information was not useful.
I am still in favor of keeping Lakewood Hospital open. However, I currently have no desire to associate with SLH. I do wish SLH the best in their efforts to save the hospital. I cannot help but feel that if some people's suggestions and ideas were taken more seriously, that SLH may have the upper hand right now.
FWIW.
I have posted the research I have found here. You are more than welcome to print it out and use it for your benefit. However, I have no desire to go back to attending SLH meetings. While it was enjoyable at the beginning, it became more of a chore and hassle to attend more than a pleasure. It seemed to me that whenever myself or most others brought up suggestions or information at the meetings, that myself and others were often rebuked and spoken to in a scathing manner as to why our idea would not work or why our information was not useful.
I am still in favor of keeping Lakewood Hospital open. However, I currently have no desire to associate with SLH. I do wish SLH the best in their efforts to save the hospital. I cannot help but feel that if some people's suggestions and ideas were taken more seriously, that SLH may have the upper hand right now.
FWIW.
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Lori Allen _
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Please read the whole thing:
http://www.clevelandurbannews.com/index ... missed.pdf
Why do SLH and their attorneys think this guy is great and trustworthy?
http://www.clevelandurbannews.com/index ... missed.pdf
Why do SLH and their attorneys think this guy is great and trustworthy?
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Lori Allen _
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Re: Should We Trust O'Donnell to be the Judge for the Hospital Debacle?
Please read this new post in its entirety. It appears that Fitzgerald, O'Donnell and Thompson Hine are real close pals. Are SLH and their attorneys going to keep assuming that this judge is honest and trustworthy? I believe if action isn't taken, it will be too late. I heard from a reliable source yesterday that the bulldozers are coming in this April. Does it not appear corrupt when the postponements have taken so long that the demolition will start before the case is even finished? I feel that SLH attorneys really dropped the ball. Why would they not look into this and other evidence that has been presented to them?
http://www.clevelandurbannews.com/index ... eclosures-
http://www.clevelandurbannews.com/index ... eclosures-
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james fitzgibbons
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What is the process to request a new judge? Who would do it?Lori Allen _ wrote:Please read this new post in its entirety. It appears that Fitzgerald, O'Donnell and Thompson Hine are real close pals. Are SLH and their attorneys going to keep assuming that this judge is honest and trustworthy? I believe if action isn't taken, it will be too late. I heard from a reliable source yesterday that the bulldozers are coming in this April. Does it not appear corrupt when the postponements have taken so long that the demolition will start before the case is even finished? I feel that SLH attorneys really dropped the ball. Why would they not look into this and other evidence that has been presented to them?
http://www.clevelandurbannews.com/index ... eclosures-
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Lori Allen _
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Re: Should We Trust O'Donnell to be the Judge for the Hospital Debacle?
James,
You would be best to ask SLH about this. I will list here for you three agencies that anyone can contact to tell them what has been going on and to file a complaint against O'donnell. I must be on to something as it appears I have either a police escort or city vehicle following me around Lakewood everyday. Too bad Summers didn't care this much about saving the hospital or all the jobs.
Board of Professional Conduct Ohio State Bar Association American Bar Association
Supreme Court of Ohio 1700 Lake Shore Drive Attn: Paulette Brown
65 S. Front Street, 5th Floor Columbus, Ohio 43204 321 North Clark Street
Columbus, Ohio 43215-3431 1-800-282-6556 Chicago Illinois, 60654
Phone # 614-387-9370 1-312-988-5000
Good luck. As I said before, people need to be more proactive, and less reactive. It takes a village!
You would be best to ask SLH about this. I will list here for you three agencies that anyone can contact to tell them what has been going on and to file a complaint against O'donnell. I must be on to something as it appears I have either a police escort or city vehicle following me around Lakewood everyday. Too bad Summers didn't care this much about saving the hospital or all the jobs.
Board of Professional Conduct Ohio State Bar Association American Bar Association
Supreme Court of Ohio 1700 Lake Shore Drive Attn: Paulette Brown
65 S. Front Street, 5th Floor Columbus, Ohio 43204 321 North Clark Street
Columbus, Ohio 43215-3431 1-800-282-6556 Chicago Illinois, 60654
Phone # 614-387-9370 1-312-988-5000
Good luck. As I said before, people need to be more proactive, and less reactive. It takes a village!
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Lori Allen _
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Re: Should We Trust O'Donnell to be the Judge for the Hospital Debacle?
I have a sick, sad feeling that council will not allow the hospital issue on the ballot until November 2016. Even though they spent tons of our money to hire their friends as attorneys and supposed outside firms to get an unbiased opinion, they are going to tell us that the city can't afford a special election. How about the 900 thousand dollar fiber optic system that Summers just HAD to HAVE? How about all the contractors in the city now doing work? I would not be surprised if there were not kick backs involved. All this work being done, and yet in 26 years the city has never looked worse.
I really do hope that Judge O'Donnell does the right thing and does not allow this stinky deal to go through until after the vote, the law suit, and especially since he has admitted that he has not even read up on the case yet. A stay needs to be put on the hospital. If the judge does not do this, I think we can all assume that he is one of Summer's buddy's and is a member of the club.
I really do hope that Judge O'Donnell does the right thing and does not allow this stinky deal to go through until after the vote, the law suit, and especially since he has admitted that he has not even read up on the case yet. A stay needs to be put on the hospital. If the judge does not do this, I think we can all assume that he is one of Summer's buddy's and is a member of the club.
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Patrick Wadden
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Lori, According to the YouTube video of the council meeting on the 11th it is not going to be on the ballot. And according to that same video it doesn't even matter if it is voted on at all. Now or in November.