Questions for Jim Kenny/Build Lakewood

[Michael Deneen]

Mr. Kenny has asked that we keep the "Anti-Summers/Pro Skindell" thread on topic.
In addition, there are multiple other threads with unanswered questions for him and his BL teammates.
Therefore, In the interest of convenience, I will list the questions here in one thread.
That should make it easier for him to respond.

From Brian Essi:
see link: http://www.lakewoodobserver.com/forum/v ... 15#p160423
Jim Kenny,

Speaking of personal responsibility to an "organization":

Did you participate in the preparation and content of BL postcard? If not, who did?

Did you attend the meeting where your leadership encouraged BLers to make criminal complaints against me for a post addressing their personal responsibility for their involvement? If not who did?

Do these actions by BLers concern you?

Oh, please do share you knowledge of this for the benefit of others and in the spirit of neighborliness.

From Lori Allen:
same link as Essi's questions.
Mr.Kenny,

I asked you several days ago to break down Build Lakewood's post card statements by posting your proof along with the documentation to back those statements up. I am still waiting for your reply. Just wondering when we might expect to see it.


Here is a question from me:

On that same thread, you claimed " I guess I rather build up a person than tear them down. It's a healthier approach for the community and for me."
However, you earlier called the Deck a "cancer".

In what way is calling the Deck a "cancer" a healthy approach?


Another question:

Any comment on Mr. Essi's post that CCF is responsible for hospital losses?
Here is the link: http://lakewoodobserver.com/forum/viewt ... =7&t=22170


We'd appreciate your response to these questions.

[Jim Kenny]

Hello Mike: Thank you for sharing my interest in keeping discussion threads on topic, as we are all best served when that happens.

Thanks, too, for raising Brian Essi’s question of personal responsibility, as you’ve given me an appropriate platform to respond.

Please let Brian know that I’m disappointed, if not heartbroken by many of the actions taken of late by members of our community. I learned of one of these yesterday when told that criminal complaints had been filed against you. I was asked if I felt compelled to take such action as your perceived threats were directed at me too. I declined, as I believe any grievance with neighbors should start with a knock on the door or a phone call. I don’t know the people who filed the complaints, but I was told they don’t participate in the Deck and they don’t know you. I was told they acted separately and individually when filing their respective complaints, as both believed your questionable posts put them at grave risk.

Brian, if you read this post, my dad taught me to deal with grievances through engagement. He taught me to call the neighbor and understand him or her before rushing to a conclusion. If he were alive today and I told him that my neighbors filed criminal complaints directed at me, he would insist I embrace the feedback. He would also insist I apologize to anyone who felt wronged by my actions. He believed that humility gave us strength and honored the whole.

Did I participate in the BL postcard? I did. I wasn’t the author but I did proof read it before printing.

Cancers exist in every organism and organization. If we feed them, these grow stronger and cause damage. To acknowledge these exist helps us treat these faster, before these fester and cause harm. As I’ve stated before and it can be read in your screen capture on another post, removing these cancers makes a community stronger. The Deck is a community and is vulnerable to such a disease. I want to see it survive, so I apply the preventive medicine within my power.

My comment on Brian Essi’s claim that CCF has financial responsibilities to Lakewood based on S&P report: Any bonds issued by S&P would only be a fraction of the debt held by Lakewood Hospital Association. CCF might be jointly accountable for this fraction. They might not if CCF has agreements that override S&P stipulations. It’s hard to judge when we’re looking only at one section of what is clearly a longer, more detailed agreement. In other words, I need more context to offer you the judgement you’re looking for. However, if a fast, gut reflect judgement is what you need, post a new discussion thread asking another Deck member who has proven to have this inclination. I just believe being impulsive when presented with only a fraction of any details is inconsiderate to those participating in the thread; hence, why I avoid posting responses in some threads and why I'm selective about which discussions I participate.

Thanks for showing an interest in my perspective. I hope these responses help you understand me better.

[marklingm]

Odd, Mr. Buckley shared with Jim the following:

Mr. Kenny having lost family members to cancer I cannot tell you how vile I find your equating discourse among residents with that dreaded disease.

http://lakewoodobserver.com/forum/viewt ... 7&start=30

In response, Jim posted that:

m buckley: Please forgive me. I know you're pain. I've lost too many to the dreaded disease and, worse yet, I have two separate dear friends who are now in stage 4. I will be more sensitive when choosing my words.

http://lakewoodobserver.com/forum/viewt ... 7&start=30

Moments later, Jim posts:

Cancers exist in every organism and organization. If we feed them, these grow stronger and cause damage. To acknowledge these exist helps us treat these faster, before these fester and cause harm. As I’ve stated before and it can be read in your screen capture on another post, removing these cancers makes a community stronger. The Deck is a community and is vulnerable to such a disease. I want to see it survive, so I apply the preventive medicine within my power.

How many folks are using Jim Kenny's account?

Matt

[Brian Essi]

Hello Mike: Thank you for sharing my interest in keeping discussion threads on topic, as we are all best served when that happens.

Thanks, too, for raising Brian Essi’s question of personal responsibility, as you’ve given me an appropriate platform to respond.

Please let Brian know that I’m disappointed, if not heartbroken by many of the actions taken of late by members of our community. I learned of one of these yesterday when told that criminal complaints had been filed against you. I was asked if I felt compelled to take such action as your perceived threats were directed at me too. I declined, as I believe any grievance with neighbors should start with a knock on the door or a phone call. I don’t know the people who filed the complaints, but I was told they don’t participate in the Deck and they don’t know you. I was told they acted separately and individually when filing their respective complaints, as both believed your questionable posts put them at grave risk.

Brian, if you read this post, my dad taught me to deal with grievances through engagement. He taught me to call the neighbor and understand him or her before rushing to a conclusion. If he were alive today and I told him that my neighbors filed criminal complaints directed at me, he would insist I embrace the feedback. He would also insist I apologize to anyone who felt wronged by my actions. He believed that humility gave us strength and honored the whole.

Did I participate in the BL postcard? I did. I wasn’t the author but I did proof read it before printing.

Cancers exist in every organism and organization. If we feed them, these grow stronger and cause damage. To acknowledge these exist helps us treat these faster, before these fester and cause harm. As I’ve stated before and it can be read in your screen capture on another post, removing these cancers makes a community stronger. The Deck is a community and is vulnerable to such a disease. I want to see it survive, so I apply the preventive medicine within my power.

My comment on Brian Essi’s claim that CCF has financial responsibilities to Lakewood based on S&P report: Any bonds issued by S&P would only be a fraction of the debt held by Lakewood Hospital Association. CCF might be jointly accountable for this fraction. They might not if CCF has agreements that override S&P stipulations. It’s hard to judge when we’re looking only at one section of what is clearly a longer, more detailed agreement. In other words, I need more context to offer you the judgement you’re looking for. However, if a fast, gut reflect judgement is what you need, post a new discussion thread asking another Deck member who has proven to have this inclination. I just believe being impulsive when presented with only a fraction of any details is inconsiderate to those participating in the thread; hence, why I avoid posting responses in some threads and why I'm selective about which discussions I participate.

Thanks for showing an interest in my perspective. I hope these responses help you understand me better.

Jim,

As you know, your late father's advice comes right from the Bible.

I respect you for being the only BL member coming on the Deck and having the courage and character to respond the way you have.

I also respect your for not participating in the concerted bullying effort to use the Police to violate my first amendment rights. Had this effort been successful, it would have been a violation of my Civil Right under 42 U.S.C 1983.

Nevertheless, I am disappointed to hear that you were at all involved in the misleading postcard and would be saddened even more if you did not take a more proactive role in forestalling the pending hoax if you knew it had been hatched.

Since you have apparently not been given the whole story by members of the BL community, let me clarify.

There were 11 BLers in all who made complaints to the Lakewood Police.

I received hate mail anonymously postmarked the day after my post---a post that Blers have twisted into something it was not.

I was told by one of three Policeman that two of complainants came from Ward 2 where I live---I don't know their names--its sort of Kafkaesque.

There were nine (9) others that that colluded and joined a formal complaint that was summarily dismissed by Police with no need for a response by me because there was no threat--perceived or otherwise, let alone a criminal threat. It was and is a total fabrication and hoax by BL. I say they colluded because the Lakewood Police Department's "Departmental Information" report documents that the successive complainants knew that a complaint was filed and then called or appeared at the Police Station to ad their names to it even though there was no threat and no crime to report or investigate. I am told that a "Departmental Information" report is one that the Police file when there is no suspect and no victim---the Police knew, without investigation, there was no crime.

The fabricators, in the order in which they joined the bullying effort, are: Mary Osborn (CCF nurse), Lind Beebe (School Board/Atty), Kathleen Haber (wife of LHA/LHF leader Ken Haber who must have known this was bogus), David Stein (the head of the business association and Lakewood Alive member), William Gaydos, Jack Palomaki (CCF doctor), Anne Palomaki, Yvonne Egerston, and Joel Egerston (two members of a local church where I am also a member, but considering leaving).

What makes matters worse is that Jay Carson, an attorney, likely knew about these bogus complaints and that the Police had contacted me when he concocted his calculated personal attack on me at City Council on Monday October 5, 2015---making false and general claims about me and other false statements---some that were proven false even by the LHA ad printed in the Lakewood Observer just this week which bore his name.

Please recall that the chief legal counsel for CCF attempted to silence me by threat and innuendo to my license to practice law and so did Jay Carson on the Deck by claiming that by commenting on the Deck I was somehow in violation of my duties to the Court merely because I am an attorney. So while I have never threatened Jay or his right to free spech, he has twice threatened me and mine.

Please note again that minutes after Jay Carson pretended at Council that he and his two children were being "threatened" by me (he was not even named in my post), he raced home to make a facebook post calling me a "bully" but then inviting me to his home and saying he was leaving the "light on" for me. What type of duplicitous coward could not even face me as a man and apologize for his horrid conduct as you now suggest.

So while Jay Carson, Jenn Pae, and the other BLers simultaneously participated in the hoax that I was somehow preventing them from speaking freely, they orchestrated a gang of bullies in an attempt to suppress my free speech by use of the Police in that bullying effort. It failed on is own even before I knew the full nature of alleged complaints or even who had made them against me.

So Jim, I know that it is heartbreaking for a gentleman like you to be associated with such blatant and transparent hypocrites.

As you can see above, it is not me who has wronged these people. Rather it is they who have wronged me.

I'm sorry Jim, but your suggestion that I reach out to such nasty, mean spirited and vindictive people who would relish another pretense to file complaints against me and do me harm is naïve.

[Jim Kenny]

Brian: I share your pain. I understand why you feel like a victim. What you don't understand because you aren't engaging those who have complained is that they are acting independently, yet now in mass. Build Lakewood is equally well-intended as Save Lakewood Hospital, yet not its equal in organization. More decisions, such as complaints about you, happen independently. I share this because this feedback can help you understand the consequences of your posts. I know many on the Deck are finding these posts entertaining, but when these are echoed offline these border on criminal. Please embrace this feedback and own it, as you will then have the power to change it. And when you do, the community as a whole can be healthier.

[Sg Foster]

... More decisions, such as complaints about you, happen independently. I share this because this feedback can help you understand the consequences of your posts. I know many on the Deck finding these posts entertaining, but when these are echoed offline these border on criminal. Please embrace this feedback and own it, as you will then have the power to change it. And when you do, the community as a whole can be healthier.

What a good soldier. Nice of you to have the community's health at heart.

[Lori Allen _]

Mr. Kenny,

Instead of avoiding the issue, could you please answer the questions you were asked about the Build Lakewood post card. It would really help the mental health of our community. Thank you.

[Brian Essi]

Jim

You've admitted above that someone asked you to file a police report. That belies the assertion that it is "independent" decision making. In fact the Departmental Information report conclusively proves concerted, not independent activity.

Who encouraged you to do that?

FYI. I take full ownership and I don't feel like a "victim". The point of me bringing up the facts is to expose the viscousness and dishonesty of the BL leadership. That was also the point of the "Blood of the Victims" post--selfish and greedy people aligned with Summer who don't care about the underserved but pretend to that can't take ownership of their actions.

Please do explain in detail your allegation that posts here "echoed offline" are "borderline
Criminal". That sounds like character assassination 101 to me. What facts can you present here to back up that claim of subornation of criminal activity?

Did you report that to the Police?

[Jim Kenny]

To the benefit of all participating in this thread:

I’m pleased to report that Brian Essi and I just talked by phone. Brian called me seeking to understand what actions of his I perceived as criminal. I clarified to him that I don’t believe he has done anything criminal, and I don’t believe he has ever threatened me. I apologized if he or anyone in this thread believed otherwise.

I assured Brian that I was merely attempting to point out that a post of his has been repeated to me (and likely to those who have filed complaints and don’t participate on the Deck) and was told that I was in some grave danger. This was repeated to me by a neighbor and not anyone associated with Build Lakewood. I dismissed it out of hand. The neighbor asked if I considered filing a complaint as others have. Again, I declined.

The lesson for all of us is our words and actions here and in other forums are echoed to others in Lakewood who don’t participate in online forums. And, as I reminded Brian, our community is suffering from a badly executed game of telephone where the messages that are getting repeated are at best getting lost and at worst getting distorted.

To All: Please give your neighbors the benefit of doubt and the gift of respect. Brian did today when he called me. Thank you Brian.

[Brian Essi]

Jim,

I accept your clarification and explanation that those who instigated those who filed the complaint against me and invented a "threat" were "irrational."

The fact that your neighbor (not a BLer) somehow heard that a complaint filed against me and asked if you would join in it speaks volumes about the organized, deliberate, concerted and widespread smear campaign against me in a transparent attempt to distract from the facts that I have brought to the debate.

Given how this has backfired on him and BL, today Jay Carson is now leading BL in an attempt to redefine who BL is.

We'll see if he is able to take ownership of what he did as you have suggested.

Hopefully you can influence them to be rational in that effort.

[Bill Call]

The Mayor is behind the efforts to use the Lakewood Police to silence his critics. In any other City what would be newsworthy.

There is a reason the Plain Dealer and other media outlets are remaining silent. For some reason the destruction of Lakewood Hospital is important to them. Why? To me that's the most interesting question of all.

[Leo Wetula]

If I were either Mayor Summers or one of the persons who filed a criminal complaint I would be worried about a civil rights lawsuit. The dumb thing they did was get the government involved.

A little reading up on the Civil Rights Act of 1871 might be useful:

42 U.S. Code § 1983 - Civil action for deprivation of rights

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/42/1983

42 U.S. Code § 1985 - Conspiracy to interfere with civil rights

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/42/1985